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Offline Rictor

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AJ: Alright my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It’s an amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole’s former chief of staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He’s suing the U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of the victims’ families signing onto it – it’s a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over. Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then let’s get into the new evidence. And then we’ll get into why you are being harassed by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have been blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.

SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It’s not just incompetence – in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th – when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal. These people had dress rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when he said he had, quote, “seen on television the first plane attack the first tower.” And that could not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a personally government ordered thing.

We are suing them under the Constitution for violating American’s rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity.

And I’ve been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the court, after 30-years on the court. I've been harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with.


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This reeks of political propaganda.

It's being released at a time when any court case for defamation or slander wouldn't finish till after the elections.
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Look, its Alex Jones. You can accuse him of being alot of things, but a Democratic propagandist is not one of them.

and anyway, I never said we should all polish our guns (thank you Mr. assault weapons ban expiration) and go kick Bush ass. I just posted it cause its an interesting development that, in my opinion, warrants further observation.

 

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Not really.

In an ideal world it would be, but as it is everyone has already made up their minds wether they're a redneck or a liberal and no amount of amazingly incriminating evidence is going to change their minds, because then they'd have to admit that throughout all the pages and pages of "I's AM T3h RyTE!!!" they were, infact, wrong.
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Give me a total break.  Is this the best left-wingers can come up with? :rolls: Development?  More like another whack-job conspiracy freak.  Remember those French sites saying that there was no way that a plane could have hit the Pentagon?  Same thing here, total crap.

 

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25 years ago, no one knew, much less cared, about the coup in Chile. And now...The same is true for any number of events.

Sure, there are a few people who will not budge no mattter what, but I don't think they in the majority. For all the rest, it is at least possible, though difficult, to bring about a change in opinion.

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Give me a total break.  Is this the best left-wingers can come up with? :rolls: Development?  More like another whack-job conspiracy freak.  Remember those French sites saying that there was no way that a plane could have hit the Pentagon?  Same thing here, total crap.


Bob Dole's chief of staff is a left-winger?
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It's all bull****. It's like the city of Atlantis or that thing about Britain knowing about Pearl Harbour way in advance and not telling the USA.

All just fantasy.
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Anythings possible...read A Man Called Intrepid...the real story of WWII as far as I'm concerned.  It makes what was happening on the surface look like all bright and rosey compaired to the events going on behind the scenes.

Not saying this is true...just that there is alot more to 911, Al-Qaeda, Afganistan, Iraq, and the other issues than anyone cares to tell anyone about.
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The Bush administration did say pre 9/11 that "terrorism was not much of a concern". The Clinton administration has done a better job at combatting terrorism than the current one. All Bush has done is use this as an excuse to kill thousands of innocent people, exploit people's fears, and also use it as an excuse to take away rights.

Honestly, I don't know which group of people are worse: The ones who believe stuff like that, or the ones who believe everything that any die-hard rightwinger (like Bush) has ever said (even when it is an obvious lie).
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Riiight.

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The Pentagon 'non-aircraft' is interesting, but, having been in the military myself, I know that secret documents are kept locked away and occaisionally shredded.  I don't buy the conspiracy of 9/11 being ordered by the government though - it just makes no sense.
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Well, it makes some sense. Just not in the sense that normal people would beleive. Unless you consider normal people every day peasants, in which that's exactly what they would want...
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They've got several hundred eyewitnesses to the airliner hitting the Pentagon, BTW.  The speed and strength of the impact meant most of the wreckage was, apparently, thrust into the building rather than outwards (plus there are witnesses who've confirmed no-one put what wreckage there was out onto the field).

Pretty muchb every aspect of the 9/11 consipracy theories - i.e. the Twin Towers being brought down with demolitions charges, etc - has been comprehensively & scientifically disproven.

What there is, is indicative of high level incompetence and miscommunication rather than conspiracy.

 

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There is actually one aspect I find somewhat puzzling.

Didn't the US scramble any fighters after the two remaining hijacked planes after the twin tower attack? How come they never reached the planes in time to stop the attack on the pentagon? Considering the distance a modern fighter can cover I find this somewhat stange. Maybe there's a explaination that I'm missing.
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That somewhat ties in with what I was thinking, which was that a stray missile from a fighter actually caused the Pentagon explosion...
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There is actually one aspect I find somewhat puzzling.

Didn't the US scramble any fighters after the two remaining hijacked planes after the twin tower attack? How come they never reached the planes in time to stop the attack on the pentagon? Considering the distance a modern fighter can cover I find this somewhat stange. Maybe there's a explaination that I'm missing.


The official story is that there was no communication between the national-defense-place-under-the-mountain-whose-name-i-forget - there's actually a tape of the ATC dithering whether to contact them after the first plane hit the towers.

The other thing is that there wasn't actually that much by way of air defense - the systems had mostly been switched off after the end of the Cold War, because no-one anticipated an aerial threat.  That said, procedure was to send up fighters as soon as an airliner stopped responding, and this wasn't followed.

Also, I'm not sure if the Pentagon plane was visible to radar for some of the time - there's eyewitness acounts that it approached at very low level (literally skimming the ground), which IIRC would be below the level of radar.  Unclear how longit would have spent at this altitude, though, so it probably wasn't a long term move to avoid radar.

 

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The official story is that there was no communication between the national-defense-place-under-the-mountain-whose-name-i-forget - there's actually a tape of the ATC dithering whether to contact them after the first plane hit the towers.


I heard it already. The point though is that planes were actually scrambled after the second hit. I'm wondering where they went.
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I heard it already. The point though is that planes were actually scrambled after the second hit. I'm wondering where they went.


IIRC there were at one point something like 14 aircraft which were suspected as being hi-jacked... possibly the planes in the air just didn't know where to go, and were put on patrol over the cities.

I get the impression that both the civllian and military ATCs were basically operating in complete chaos.

 

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Cheyenne Mountain!?

I KNEW the Goa'Uld were behind this!! It makes perfect sense! I see it all so clear now! Now that we have Ancients technology and the support of the Asgard the Goa'Uld are uncapable of attacking our planet! They infiltrate our society and pose as terrorists by crashing planes into important buildings!!!!

Obviously, SG-1 was on an away mission to PX-72635 and had taken General O'Neill with them on a diplomatic assignment. This was all careully planned by the Goa'Uld so that they wouldn't fall prey tp O'Neill uber destructive witty jokes of D00M!

YES! IT IS TRUE! I 4M RYT3!!!!1111shiftoneoneone

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