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Offline vyper

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[q]my brother gets dizzy when i'm playing it cuz the bastard can't handle the "3D"ness of it[/q]

Reality must be a bit of a **** for him then?
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Offline Roanoke

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Originally posted by Raa
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No, that's not it at all. I find that I can empty a clip into an elite and it'll barely break the elite's shield. Even if they're all head shots. The gun is uber crap.
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yeah, feels like you should be able to carry 2 at once.

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twin Brute Plasma Rifles own

 

Offline IceFire

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Pistol no longer has a scope, assault rifle is gone, replaced by the SMG (high rate of fire, no accuracy, nasty recoil, but can dual weild) and the Battle Rifle (scope, high damage, but limited to a 3 round burst) He's just looking for excuses to ***** because it's harder than the first. And no, the Needler is not better. Chews through ammo too quick. They all have their uses. As for the confined areas, thats no different than the first Halo. Besides, those levels you usually have access to plasma swords and shotguns. A plasma sword can pretty much cleave a Combat Form in half in a single hit.

None of that sounds bad at all!

Sounds like a boatload of fun.  I always prefered the rifles in games where single round and three round burst was preferable to full auto in all but the most specific of circumstances.  So it sounds like the Battle Rifle would be my best friend...
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Offline Deepblue

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Plus is looks nice. Like a Famas actually. In fact it almost is a Famas.

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Offline NGTM-1R

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Harder? Not really. That's an illusion caused by lack of space and less-powerful weapons. The Battle Rifle and Halo's AR fire the same ammo, but it takes twenty-plus rounds to drop a Combat form when it used to take fifteen. The M6C and the M6D are not related, unless it's in the fashion that the M1911 and M9 are in the real world. It used to take a single magazine to kill an Elite. Now it takes one and most of another. Or the Fuel Rod Gun. It used to be damage-equivalent to the rocket launcher, with a single blast being instant doom to a Banshee or Ghost. Now it takes two shots to kill a Ghost, three or four for a Banshee. Don't tell me the weapon power wasn't nerfed, it was.

In truth, you actually tend to engage fewer enemies at once, because you'd never survive taking on as many as you used to in Halo. The most Combat Forms I've ever counted onscreen at once was about ten, most I've ever engaged at once and lived to tell about it was seven. The Flood just don't feel as overwhelming as they used to, a lot of the time they're only in groups of two or four Combat Forms. There's nothing in Halo 2 at all to compare to the wave after wave of Infection Forms that introduced you to the Flood in Halo.

The Needler is the only weapon with which you can reasonably expect to kill anything that walks on two legs (Hunters excepted) in fifteen rounds or less. And without having to stand outside of cover for a long enough time for a bunch of Covies to hose you down with plasma fire. For the Flood, though, I prefer either dual SMGs or a Sentinel Beam. The Flood have a disturbing habit of taking enough needles to cause an explosion, but managing to run up to me before the needles actually explode.
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Offline Deepblue

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That was always a problem when fighting the flood... But then theres the shotgun...

 

Offline Thorn

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Originally posted by ngtm1r
Harder? Not really. That's an illusion caused by lack of space and less-powerful weapons. The Battle Rifle and Halo's AR fire the same ammo, but it takes twenty-plus rounds to drop a Combat form when it used to take fifteen. The M6C and the M6D are not related, unless it's in the fashion that the M1911 and M9 are in the real world. It used to take a single magazine to kill an Elite. Now it takes one and most of another. Or the Fuel Rod Gun. It used to be damage-equivalent to the rocket launcher, with a single blast being instant doom to a Banshee or Ghost. Now it takes two shots to kill a Ghost, three or four for a Banshee. Don't tell me the weapon power wasn't nerfed, it was.

In truth, you actually tend to engage fewer enemies at once, because you'd never survive taking on as many as you used to in Halo. The most Combat Forms I've ever counted onscreen at once was about ten, most I've ever engaged at once and lived to tell about it was seven. The Flood just don't feel as overwhelming as they used to, a lot of the time they're only in groups of two or four Combat Forms. There's nothing in Halo 2 at all to compare to the wave after wave of Infection Forms that introduced you to the Flood in Halo.


The only confined space I found was on High Charity, those curved corridors, with a level around the outer edge, slighly higher than the inner, but fine. I'll give you that one.
So by your reasoning they went from having wide open spaces, ridiculous amounts of enemies, and stupidly powerful weapons to smaller spaces and less enemies, toning down the weapons so you can't just walk through the game with one gun mowing down everything you come across. You went from superhuman one man army to still superhuman, but not a walking tank.
And while we're on the subject of enemies... Elites. They're 9ft tall aliens with highly advanced armor and powerful energy shield. You think a few bullets should take that down? Pfeh.
The difficulty is not an illusion if its giving you that much trouble. Accept the challenge and try to beat the game (or lower the difficulty ffs), or take it back if you dont like it. Quit *****ing.

 

Offline IceFire

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So I'm thinking I'll buy an X-Box and Halo 2 after Christmas maybe :)

Think the prices will drop afterwards?  I like the sounds of Halo 2 and I wouldn't mind an X-Box for a few other games that seem to be on it and not on Gamecube.  Infact, Gamecube seems to be a dud...the best game on it was Zelda...which I'm not terribly interested in and Metroid Prime which I found interesting and visually amazing but boring and somewhat lifeless.  Its a neat adventure but it doesn't get my attention like the Halo PC demo did....
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Offline Deepblue

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The Xbox price will drop very quickly once Xbox 2 is announced.

 
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Dual Brute Plasma Rifles sucked so much ass it wasn't even funny. I was expecting some uber-rifles, and I cant even take down a single brute with those pieces of crap. Carbine = awesome, as well as the fuel rod cannon. (And the plasma sword)


I just finished the campaign today, and man it is sweet.

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Brutes = cannon fodder for needlers

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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The Wall levels didn't feel confined to you, working your way through those corridors with objects scattered around in them to inhibit your ability to backpedal when you needed to and bottomless pits to kill you if you misstepped? How about most of the combat that took place in the ruins on Delta Halo, or in the first Arbiter level, in rooms or corridors that only could fit four people abreast?

As for the Elites: Consider the round the pistol fires. A 12.7mm round is a big honkin' chunk of lead to get hit with. Halo's pistol was powerful because it should have been considering its calibur. That was exactly how the weapon should have been. The same for Halo's assault rifle. These were realistically modeled weapons doing realistic amounts of damage. Twenty-five or thirty rounds of 7.62mm rifle ammo is plenty enough to stop a nine-foot-tall shielded alien.

As for being superhuman...isn't that exactly what the Master Chief is? Having spent nearly his entire life as a soldier, starting before he was even ten, with cybernetic and other enhancements to his strength, speed, and reflexes, the MC is supposed to be a well-nigh invincible one-man army. That's what the games say, that's what the books say.

And as for *****ing about difficulty, I have completed the game on Legendary three times so far, I'm working on a fourth. I'm not mad about difficulty. I am mad about how they chose to make it difficult. I do not object to what they have done, but rather the stupid way in which they have done it.
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Offline Taristin

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Hey... Are you completely ignorant of the
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tags?  Not everyone here has played Halo 2. Respect thair wishes to hear opinions without reading parts of the story.
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Originally posted by ngtm1r
The Wall levels didn't feel confined to you, working your way through those corridors with objects scattered around in them to inhibit your ability to backpedal when you needed to and bottomless pits to kill you if you misstepped? How about most of the combat that took place in the ruins on Delta Halo, or in the first Arbiter level, in rooms or corridors that only could fit four people abreast?

As for the Elites: Consider the round the pistol fires. A 12.7mm round is a big honkin' chunk of lead to get hit with. Halo's pistol was powerful because it should have been considering its calibur. That was exactly how the weapon should have been. The same for Halo's assault rifle. These were realistically modeled weapons doing realistic amounts of damage. Twenty-five or thirty rounds of 7.62mm rifle ammo is plenty enough to stop a nine-foot-tall shielded alien.

As for being superhuman...isn't that exactly what the Master Chief is? Having spent nearly his entire life as a soldier, starting before he was even ten, with cybernetic and other enhancements to his strength, speed, and reflexes, the MC is supposed to be a well-nigh invincible one-man army. That's what the games say, that's what the books say.

And as for *****ing about difficulty, I have completed the game on Legendary three times so far, I'm working on a fourth. I'm not mad about difficulty. I am mad about how they chose to make it difficult. I do not object to what they have done, but rather the stupid way in which they have done it.


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Regarding the Elites: It's the shields that are the problem. They last forever, and recharge. Once the shields are down, they die as fast as a grunt to gunfire :rolleyes:

Regarding the MC being superhuman: Well, if you wanna us the books for reference, take note of The Fall of Reach, which has the MC going into a grappling match with an Elite and only managing to match it in terms of strength and reflex. He's a cyborg, not superman.

Regarding the difficulty: Somehow, I doubt that. A lot.

As for the 'Confined feeling,' Halo had virtually the same type of enviornments, and I never felt confined in either. I found that many of the levels took place in nice open spaces, with plenty of objects to take cover behind. I can only recall falling off a ledge twice in the whole game.
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Offline phreak

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Originally posted by Raa
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No, that's not it at all. I find that I can empty a clip into an elite and it'll barely break the elite's shield. Even if they're all head shots. The gun is uber crap.
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two shots to a brute's head with it and its down.  at least on heroic


well at least i got the damn tags working.  perhaps i should use preview post instead of that quick reply.
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Offline Taristin

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Brutes are f*kkin too hard on Legendary. In the arbiter level, where the big... err... alien thing puts you back outside, they can take more than one of those 'fatal' uppercuts with the plasma sword.  I don't know how well the covvie gun works o Heroic, I've been playing on legendary. And it's haaaaaaard.
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Offline Setekh

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No kidding, Raa. See my comment a couple pages back.

I just wish the BR came with more ammo, a couple hundred rounds extra would be really handy seeing as the three-shot bursts chew it up so fast.

Also, yeah guys, use spoiler tags will you?

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Offline Turnsky

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No kidding, Raa. See my comment a couple pages back.

I just wish the BR came with more ammo, a couple hundred rounds extra would be really handy seeing as the three-shot bursts chew it up so fast.

Also, yeah guys, use spoiler tags will you?

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I'm still trying to work out what the Ark is - Africa, Earth, the Forerunner ship with Truth on it, or what.
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this may be pure conjecture on my part, but with the monitor's insistance on calling humans "reclaimers" and the earth being referred to as "the ark" would that mean, that somehow, that WE, are the forerunner?
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Offline Setekh

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Here's my whole theory on the Forerunner:

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Turnsky, that was my theory all along. :D It goes back to Halo 1, when 343GS has taken over the Pillar of Autumn and says: "You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all of our lost time! Human history, is it? Fascinating." There's also the time you're going through the Library and he tells the Master Chief that he's grateful "to see that some of them [the Forerunners] survived to reproduce."

Sounds to me like the Forerunner seeded Earth with life that would recreate their own race, when they realised that they would have to activate the rings and wipe the galaxy of life. Then, they'd be able to rise up again and reclaim their position as the prominent life form in the galaxy. Perhaps they even created the entire planet Earth - since they are able to construct the ringworlds, after all - and that the whole planet is the Ark, designed to 'protect the Reclaimers from the Flood' - just like its Biblical counterpart. ;)

Well, that's my two cents. :)
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Do I get to find out what the **** the Flood are and where they came from?


And does anyone know if Crystal X-Boxes are v1.6?
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Offline Thorn

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Setekh: Thats about the most sensible theory I've heard on the subject yet. $20 says Halo 3 will reveal exactly that.