[Grimloq]

>.<

the beast turn you into a twisted immortal uncontrollable being, who becomes one with the ship and the rest of anything on it. the flood just mutate you and use you as a host. granted, they prolly look creepeyer, but i mean, imagine walking onto this strangly quiet and dark ship, and finding this gorey bloody membrane all over, kinda strewn around the walls, and you have a matter of seconds after opening the airlock before the virus hits you and you are literally torn and shredded into the membrane the beast are. the worst part is that when they do this, you live. you just lose all control, and are bent on infecting everything else you see. but the point is that you are still alive when they rip your body into a gooey unidentifiable mass!

my god man, what is freakeyer than that???

and noone, NOone, not even the insanest pot addict can say that ANYTHING even comes CLOSE to sounding as spine-chilling as the beasts voice. noone can. the beasts voice STILL creeps me out. i mean, for a while i couldnt play that game and hear them talk if the lights werent on!!

Originally posted by willy_principal.
**** the XBOX!!!
Consoles aren't made for FPS...............
i love moving my mouse to precisely aim my sniper rifle and kill an elite in one ****ing shot!!!

RIGHT ON!!! *gives WP a high five*

although isnt it much more satisfying when you carefully aim that rocket launcher at a group of asleep grunts and let fly, then watch them shoot, screaming, about 50 feet in the air in different directions?

[willy_principal]

the beast.........what are you talking about???
it's from HALO 2??? (if it is, ****...i haven't played it yet and i'm trying to evade any spoilers.......)

[willy_principal]

the first time i saw the flood...i was shocked, i mean...i was surprised...............i hoped something big, powerful.....instead...thousand of small little thingies came out, and i easily killed them all with my assault rifle.....................then, i saw something humanoid jumping to attack me..................MAN, that really scared me...........
after the flood appeared, the thing that most scared me, was running out of ammo... ... ... since most of their attack where melee...

[Striker]

The flood were such a change from the covenant. You had to completely change your strategy from precise shots to spray, spray, spray. Assault rifle the masses, shotgun the infested forms right before they landed on you. Nothin like good ole' human weapons to take on those bad boys. And Halo wasn't supposed to be a suspense horror like Doom 3 or whatever. It was action.  Still, the flood gave me a real "oh **** oh **** oh ****" moment the first few times I took em on.
And the first time I fought hunters was a blast. All my men were taken out and I had to take em both on right there under the Truth and Reconciliation. Didn't learn till later that a nice blow to the orange spot was all it took...but good times.

[aldo_14]

The flood were fun when they were the little parasitical things.  But later on, it was just 'oh, look.  Space zombies.  And I have a shotgun.  How nice'

NB: Hunters are really easy to kill with the pistol & zoomed in headshots.  They're not particularly smart at recognising that, either.

[Ransom]

I thought the Flood were stupid. They weren't scary, they were just far too generic. It's like Bungie ran out of ideas and thought 'Hey, why don't we put some zombies in our game! Because, you know, everyone loves zombies!'

The Beast owns the hell out of the Flood. The Beast was ominous and evil. The Flood were generic, repetitive and really not very interesting or fun to fight.

[deep_eyes]

Honestly, if anyone knows there game history on Halo, for petes sake it was suppose to be a MAC game first! it was originally desgined as a RTS, then a 3rd person shooter because of the tomb raider hype, then it got modded again to FPS because the technology was available and they (bungie) wanted to exploit it.

THIS WAS ALL BEFORE, Microsoft bought BUNGIE, created the x-box, and UNREAL 1 was on the market.

In terms of the story, completely original... 500yrs from now, and we dont got phasers (ahem trekkie dogma) and still rely on old school projectile weapons... well **** man thats what makes us diffrent (and halo's theme) and more enjoyable than other games. its more realistic than u could imagine. granted the halo 2 physics are wierd now, but they put into play the fact that in the story the main charecter has jumped many high distances like the HULK and not get hurt, where as in Halo 1, u fall some distance and ur gonna get pwn3d. i think a majority of the Spartan teams in the novels for example, have done the same, but from say JUMPING OUT OF A DROP SHIP cause they were about to crash, and out of 30, i think 7 died from hitting a wall or something...

that armor is prettttty tough lol...

but back to the subject at hand, as far as a "Space Combat Simulation" goes, it would be interesting... there are plent of refrences to use to make United Nations Capital ships and covenant ships... the only problem is, 30 years of war made the UN have like 90%of there forces pwn3d by covenent warships....

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by Grimloq
>.<

the beast turn you into a twisted immortal uncontrollable being, who becomes one with the ship and the rest of anything on it. the flood just mutate you and use you as a host. granted, they prolly look creepeyer, but i mean, imagine walking onto this strangly quiet and dark ship, and finding this gorey bloody membrane all over, kinda strewn around the walls, and you have a matter of seconds after opening the airlock before the virus hits you and you are literally torn and shredded into the membrane the beast are. the worst part is that when they do this, you live. you just lose all control, and are bent on infecting everything else you see. but the point is that you are still alive when they rip your body into a gooey unidentifiable mass!

my god man, what is freakeyer than that???

and noone, NOone, not even the insanest pot addict can say that ANYTHING even comes CLOSE to sounding as spine-chilling as the beasts voice. noone can. the beasts voice STILL creeps me out. i mean, for a while i couldnt play that game and hear them talk if the lights werent on!!


 

RIGHT ON!!! *gives WP a high five*

although isnt it much more satisfying when you carefully aim that rocket launcher at a group of asleep grunts and let fly, then watch them shoot, screaming, about 50 feet in the air in different directions?

Once the beast took you over, you were dead, IIRC. The only exception to that was the Bentusi (I think this is because the Bentusi are actually a part of their ships). Plus, the change is rapid. Very rapid. Play the HW:C and fire off an infection beam. The time it takes for the ship to come under control is how fast it subverts the organic tissue.

Yes, the beast sounded cool. Not scary, but very sinister and inhuman. I liked how it changed from a warped female voice to a deep rattling voice as it talked.

IMO, the flood was better in terms of scary/freakiness and just in general. The beast was cooler to play with/as and listen to.

@ aldo: I hated how weak the Hunters were in Halo. They were basically buff grunts. One shot, one kill

[Anaz]

Halo wins for freakiest moment ever in a game when I opened the door and there was the delusional marine guy sitting there with his pistol.

[Jetmech Jr.]

ROFL

I remember that. I listened to his whole speech when I saw him, and I gotta say, it made me anxious.

[Striker]

Really? I just laughed at him and put him outta his misery. It wasn't that scary for me.

[Hippo]

Hello...



Yeah, i still have plans for that in the back of my head... I got all the usefull models extracted, and had most of the T&R built... I still aim to do something with it... Though when, is a different question...

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Anaz
Halo wins for freakiest moment ever in a game when I opened the door and there was the delusional marine guy sitting there with his pistol.

Indeed. That level + darkness in the room + single-player + Legendary = ****ing tense.

[Grimloq]

Originally posted by Jetmech Jr.


Once the beast took you over, you were dead, IIRC. The only exception to that was the Bentusi (I think this is because the Bentusi are actually a part of their ships). Plus, the change is rapid. Very rapid. Play the HW:C and fire off an infection beam. The time it takes for the ship to come under control is how fast it subverts the organic tissue.

Yes, the beast sounded cool. Not scary, but very sinister and inhuman. I liked how it changed from a warped female voice to a deep rattling voice as it talked.

IMO, the flood was better in terms of scary/freakiness and just in general. The beast was cooler to play with/as and listen to.

[edit] no, the beast are not in halo 2. theyre from homeworld: cataclysm. no spoiler, don tworry [/edit]

no, you were alive. very much so. you just stopped being human. think of it like a twisted version of converting someone to a different religion.
(bentusi arnet part of their ships. theyre just mysterious, and very, very old.)
i didnt say it wasnt rapid (i think) just that you were still alive. listen to the worker as he is subverted. its sickening.
flood are cool (just today got through that level ) but in the PC version they have little or no detail. also, theyre just zombies. thats it. zombies with cool little parisites.

also, most of halo is ruined for me cuz ive seen many of the pivitol points in the story. too bad.

i like the delusional marine. i listened to him and then meleed him. bwaa!

and actually, the story seems to be largely based on the 'mysterious occurences and then you find a super-race/super-weapon/cool-thing. then, you spend the rest of the campaign fighting the cool thing.' plot line. im not saying tghey stole THAT, but its not a 'new' storyline. the events were pretty good though.

[Jetmech Jr.]

Really? Where did you hear that they remain alive? Moreover, how can you be alive when everything that is you (i.e. your brain, organs, and the rest) have been reduced and rearranged into a large layering of bio-circuitry?

Also, IIRC, yes, the bentusi are merged with the ships to an extent (think like an advanced version of how Karan S'jet was merged with the mothership) hence the 'Unbound' term (My memory is a little sketchy in this regard, admittedly).

My 'rapid' comment was to emphasize the point that the flood slowly convert you into combat forms, and you retain a measure of awareness and coherent thought right up until the last moments (the book "Halo: The Flood" gives a good account of it happening to Keyes), whereas the beast subverts you almost immediately. Which would you choose to undergo?

That's what you get for peeking at the spoilers

[Grimloq]

i didnt peek! i hear stuff from otehr rooms, etc lol


youre body is shredded, whatever the Beast want to keep they keep. its like being rearranged. youre still alive and in agony most likely... didnt you ever wonder why the voice sounds mostly the same after subversion?

again, think of it as being like a twisted form of bein converted to another religion.

oh, thats what you meant. i thought you meant like the bentusi were part of their ships as in how the borg are, a single consioucness (sp?). ya, i think tahts right.

you remain alive well after youve been subverted. on the account of the... ohm dang, whats it called? that one hiigaran responce to being hit with infection beams... ah, whatever whatever it is, on the account of it, it says '... while the cost of hiigaran life is high, instant death in a firey burst of plasma is infinitly preferable to the twisted immortality of the Beast.' its youre not converted ,youre still 'you', but you are ocnbimed with everythingelse, then (i think) telepathically linked to the rest of the Beast. basicly, you cant help it. you are FORCED to do all this stuff, and its just torturing. the flood simply rot youre body and consume it. ill bet tahts horribley disgusting and painful, but its 'infinitely preferable to the twisted immortality of the Beast.'

the beast kick @$$. theyre scary. hell, i get creeped out just thinking about them. the flood just look terrifying, and are incredably strong. theyre not especially innovative or sinister. they have no consiousness per se, they just have this instinct to spread the disease of the flood. the Beast are pure evil. they WANT to totally subvert teh entire universe. they kill for the sake of killing.

also, think about this: the beast cant do EVERYTHING from space in their scary spaceships, not even in vehicles. they have to have ground troops. they DO occasionally have other objectives than just subvert everything. if its easier to capture something than to infect it, im sure theyd take the most practical route. so, the beast MUST have ground units! and just think of what theyd look like. im thinking a spartan-like peice of armor with lotsa holes in it, and no visor, and a pulsating mass of membrane inside it... talking like the beast... *shudders*

[edit] teh w00tzorz! first post on page 4!

[Jetmech Jr.]

The Flood are actually highly intelligent and focused on their goals. They can repair crashed starships such as the PoA and the TnR. As per the rest, I'll reply tomorrow. Damn curfew .

[Anaz]

I dunno...I still think the flood win...their "containment protocols" involve destroying all life in the universe...

Plus, for those who read the books, for a little while the consiousness of the person remains, and you get to watch your subverted body beat up/kill/maim your former comrades. Also can be shown with the good captain, how he was still able to talk to the chief/cortana for a bit.

[Singh]

Originally posted by Hippo
Hello...



Yeah, i still have plans for that in the back of my head... I got all the usefull models extracted, and had most of the T&R built... I still aim to do something with it... Though when, is a different question...

Hey hippo. Any idea when you can release the models to public? I have a few....ideas for them if at all models.

Also, dont mind me asking, which models exactly? Are you taking any from Halo 2 - they might be more hi-poly than the original if im not wrong......

[Grimloq]

Originally posted by Anaz
I dunno...I still think the flood win...their "containment protocols" involve destroying all life in the universe...

Plus, for those who read the books, for a little while the consiousness of the person remains, and you get to watch your subverted body beat up/kill/maim your former comrades. Also can be shown with the good captain, how he was still able to talk to the chief/cortana for a bit.

paragraph #1: so are the beast, they just kill because they seme to enjoy it. everyone must be subverted and purified. thats their design.

paragraph #2: oooohh, creepy im impressed. so is the case with the beast, i think. except you STAY. youre consiousness is just there. it never leaves. you survive. and you dont die. you will just keep ON being a twisted, tortured, mutilated soul coupled with millions of others until the Beast dies. you are linked to the rest of the Beast, so even if the pile of membrane that was youre body is destroyed somehow,  you go on living in the corners of the Beasts mind. forever. fun, ey?

The Flood are actually highly intelligent and focused on their goals. They can repair crashed starships such as the PoA and the TnR. As per the rest, I'll reply tomorrow. Damn curfew .

really? cool! im still not very far in halo... i can only play when my dads not around. he wont let me play FPSs

you cant appreciate the Beast unless youve faced them in battle >.<