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Offline Carl

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Where's my shiny?
on: December 18, 2004, 11:31:33 am
I downloaded 3.6 finally, using Fractux's install program. everything works fine except...*sniff* there is no specular :(

i have the specular tag checked in the launcher, so it should show up, but it doesn't. is this a known problem?
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Offline phreak

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Reply #1 on: December 18, 2004, 11:32:31 am
system specs?
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Offline Carl

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Reply #2 on: December 18, 2004, 11:39:30 am
Pentium IV 3 GHZ
Radeon 9800 AGP
1024 MB RAM (I think)
Direct X 8

and specular used to work.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2004, 11:58:08 am by 158 »
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Offline karajorma

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Reply #3 on: December 18, 2004, 11:46:05 am
If you have a Radeon card and greater than Catalyst 4.4 then yes it's a known problem.
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Offline Black Wolf

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Reply #4 on: December 18, 2004, 11:55:58 am
For what it's worth, having recently upgraded to a Radeon card, I share your pain.
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Offline Carl

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Reply #5 on: December 18, 2004, 11:58:59 am
any chance of fixing it in the near future?
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Offline WMCoolmon

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Reply #6 on: December 18, 2004, 02:01:26 pm
Kazan said he was going to work on it, IIRC.
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Offline Bobboau

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Reply #7 on: December 18, 2004, 02:54:27 pm
it's going to need vertex shaders most likely, that's going to be a big project that is going to take sevral people working on at the same time for sevral months at least (but when we're done it'll be better than ever)
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Offline Turambar

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Reply #8 on: December 18, 2004, 03:13:23 pm
does that mean that youre going to do it?
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Offline Dazza8082

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Reply #9 on: December 18, 2004, 04:22:58 pm
ohh, this sounds good...bar bug fixes how far down the list of things to do would you say is it?  

Of course it would be nice if ATI could help you guys on this one but after repeted e-mails about it ive not heard so much as a whisper, although i did get a quick answer for a HL2 question so i guess its because its no longer a retail game.
 

Offline JR2000Z

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Reply #10 on: December 18, 2004, 07:30:37 pm
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Originally posted by Carl
Pentium IV 3 GHZ
Radeon 9800 AGP
1024 MB RAM (I think)
Direct X 8

and specular used to work.


You do realize that the Radeon 9800 is a DX9 card right? :wtf:
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #11 on: December 19, 2004, 06:41:10 am
I'm running a R9800 on factory drivers, but it works over here. Full specs:

AMD 64 3000+
1GB DDR RAM
Radeon 9800 Pro
Latest build


Spec and env both seem to work, and it looks beautifull.
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Offline karajorma

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Reply #12 on: December 19, 2004, 08:21:49 am
That's on which version of the catalysts kasperl?
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #13 on: December 19, 2004, 09:01:03 am
Whatever was on that box when it came from the store. I haven't  updated them since I reinstalled last time. I'll check.

commandlines on build 365:
fs2_open_r.exe -spec -glow -pcx32 -jpgtga -d3dmipmap -ship_choice_3d -targetinfo -2d_poof -env -alpha_env -fps -show_mem_usage  -allslev -fov 0.39
Cats: 6.14.0010.6387 according to dxdiag, 6.14.10.6387 according to display driver property's.
DX:9.0b (4.09.0000.0902)

AA on D3D Multisample 2. This, in combination with the GF font fix does give me blue lines in the interface. However, without the font fix I have garbage fonts.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2004, 09:06:34 am by 936 »
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Offline Overlord

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Reply #14 on: December 19, 2004, 10:51:00 am
When you disable -pcx32 the blue lines should disappear.
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Offline kasperl

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Reply #15 on: December 19, 2004, 11:54:44 am
Ah, I'll try that.

edit: it worked, thanks.
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Offline IceFire

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Reply #16 on: December 19, 2004, 11:58:51 am
Quote
Originally posted by kasperl
I'm running a R9800 on factory drivers, but it works over here. Full specs:

AMD 64 3000+
1GB DDR RAM
Radeon 9800 Pro
Latest build


Spec and env both seem to work, and it looks beautifull.

No such thing as factory drivers anymore.  Not for video cards...we call them "old drivers".

What Catalyst version?  Probably before Catalyst 4.4 and thus is works.  Above 4.4 and its broken.
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Offline mitac

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Reply #17 on: December 19, 2004, 02:38:21 pm
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Originally posted by kasperl
Cats: 6.14.0010.6387 according to dxdiag, 6.14.10.6387 according to display driver property's.


That's Catalyst 3.8. No wonder it works.

These drivers might even work with some pre-voodoo-ati-cards, considering how old they are. :D
« Last Edit: December 19, 2004, 02:40:47 pm by 1928 »
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Offline DrunkenPirate

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Reply #18 on: December 20, 2004, 01:20:02 am
I have the same card and I can get environment mapping to work but not Shine Mapping. I can live without it I guess since I am not sure what I am missing, but I cannot use old drivers because of the many fixes for games I play in the newer ones.
 

Offline Dazza8082

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Reply #19 on: December 20, 2004, 02:38:33 am
They wouldnt of changed something massive, it'll be something silly that had a side effect of screwing over SCP, does anybody have access to the ATI driver code, not the new stuff, but 4.6 and 4.7, or perhaps there is a way to cross ref them both in there settings on a new system, or if we know the compiler can we *cough  decompile cough* them.... or even better does anyone know anyone from ATI that cold at least answer our questions!!
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