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GTVA's ground, sea, air forces
The big bombs we used like the Harbingers were adapted from the planetary assault version.

 

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Originally posted by willy_principal
What?!?!!?...
Thermo Nuclear bombs launched from space...where did you read that?

That's what i call, a MASSACRE!!!

a dozen of them could easily render a planet useless...
(except if those where the new 'clean' bombs....fission-fussion, 95% less radiation than normal fission-only nuclear bombs )


Well, there's a strong hint in the FSRefBible that bombs were used against civvie targets (albeit not ground based ones)  during the TV war;

[q]
GTM - N1 HARBINGER
Fusion bomb surrounded by 3 salted fission bombs; propulsion unit is a half-size version of a regulation GTA fighter thruster (Class II); given the weight of the payloads, the missile is slow despite the power of the thruster; as the Harbinger is exceptionally large, GTA fighters and bombers are limited to carrying 2 of these weapons at any given time; the resultant shock wave from this weapon is potentially deadly, due to the size of the payloads (5000 Mt in total); use near allied installations or allied ship groupings is strongly discouraged by the GTA; most effective when used in preemptive defensive strike against non-military installations.
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(this presumably applies to strikes on Vasudan installations; the Shivans simply don't have anything that would apply here)

And, of course, the Lucifer bombarded Vasuda prime to dust;
[q]
COMMAND BRIEFING 2

Destruction of Vasuda Prime

This brings me to the reason for this briefing. As some of you may have already heard, shortly after the destruction of the Galatea at nineteen-hundred last night, we received word that the Shivan Lucifer made the jump to Vasuda Prime. The Lucifer fleet bombarded Vasuda Prime from orbit for thirteen hours straight.

COMMAND BRIEFING 3

Aftermath of Vasuda Attack

Most escaping transport ships were destroyed. All major Vasudan cities were leveled, and most of the landmass was rendered uninhabitable. All of our attacks launched from the nearby installations were defeated.

We have lost contact with all Terran ships in the area, but it appears that the Shivan fleet has now moved on. It's estimated that four billion innocent Vasudans lost their lives in the attack.

Terran Command is preparing to help evacuate all survivors to other habitable worlds in the area.
[/q]

EDIT;

[q]New Technology: Harbinger Bomb

The Harbinger will assist us greatly in any attacks against capital ships. Until recently, Harbingers were reserved for planetary attacks only. With this project nearing completion, we may be able to finally defeat the Lucifer.[/q]

There you go; a 2500MT bomb used for planetary attacks (the 5000MT figure above applies to the payload of  2 which a GTVA ship is limited to carrying)
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2500 MegaTons!!!
Hiroshima was...what? 2.5 MT....i think even less....
Anyway...looks like the harbinger bomb is relatively clean...around 70% less radiation than common nuclear bombs...
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Offline FireCrack

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But it's salted, so wouldnt that mean more fallout?
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline pyro-manic

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The Hiroshima bomb was 12 Kilotonnes. The biggest warhead ever detonated was Ivan, a 50Megatonne fusion bomb that was dropped by the Russians in 1961. See the info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

The Harbinger and Cyclops (never mind the Helios) are magnitudes more powerful than the largest weapon yet built. A bombardment of these warheads would effectively raze a planet's surface in a short time.....
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errr...........what does it means that it's salted.......
and what's more 'fallout'? power? radiation?
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Offline NGTM-1R

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FS bombs are hardly suitable for tactical strike use; Furies and Tempests are probably the way to go for that.
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****....i have to go to some English Academy..............it's the thenth time in the week that i don't know the meaning of an englissh word.......
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Hmmm, fallout is that huge mushroom cloud that you see. It contain some very nasty stuff. The winds blow this cloud around and it can settle many hundreds of kilometers away. Sometimes even across whole countries and neighboring ones aswell. This is called fallout. (i think)

 

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Fallout: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout

Radioactive particles resulting from a nuclear explosion. They are very small, so the blast and wind can carry them for thousands of miles before they fall to the ground. Nasty stuff.
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ioh.........then.........fallout.......is radiation.........
fission emits radiation...
fussion not...

but the Harbinger is a fission-fussion bomb....
first........the fission part explodes till the temperature is so high, then the fussion comes off and delivers most of the power.......or............something........
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Offline pyro-manic

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You still get fallout from fusion bombs - all the tiny bits of bomb casing (and any stuff that gets sucked into the fireball) may be thrown out as fallout.

Modern nukes are all fission-fusion bombs. Check wikipedia for the details. :)
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there are no purely Fussion bombs...they need a fission first to initiate the fussion reaction...
But fussion itself doesn't produce the nasty thing called radiation...that's why it's so good...
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yes it does, just not nuclear waste.
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Salted means it's sourounded by extra radioactive material that gets spread all over the place when tyhe bomb goes boom.


Fusion does produce radiation, in the form of neutrons and photons. It just doesnt produce nucleuar wase (as above) and all the radiation release happens at the time of detonation, there is none( (or verry little) falout.

Falout form a pure fusion bomb would probably be generated only in a groundburst where molecules on the ground are bombarded by neutroms (made radioactive) then lifted up and spread about by cinvection currents from the big boom.
actualy, mabye not.
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Interesting..

I guess i never realized the tragity of vasuda prime. Their home planet wasted.. everyone hunted down.. god thats ruthless. By the way.. in the T-V war, what planets did We have that were populated or civilians on in mass numbers? Besides Sol.

Also.. did the Vasudans use orbital nuke attacks on us too? Where did most of our casulitys come from if they didnt reach sol?

We shouldent have had that much time to get that many civilians\military bases on systems already..

whats up with that?
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