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Offline Genryu

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From what I saw, the guy's equivalent to Jean-Marie Le Pen. 'Nuff said.



For those wondering who Le Pen is, let's just say he's famous for the same theory made by Veritas -aka immigrant, legal or not, expulsed or stripped of everything- and little comment like saying the gaz chamber during WW2 were a 'detail' of history, or that the German occupation in France 'wasn't that bloody'. For what i've seen for the moment, seems like those two guys could be friends.
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Offline karajorma

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If he is such a rascist then how did he get into a medium-sized political party


Look at the party he joined! The UKIP is nothing more than the BNP lite. Remember that we're dealing with the same party who hired this moron!
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Offline aldo_14

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Look at the party he joined! The UKIP is nothing more than the BNP lite. Remember that we're dealing with the same party who hired this moron!


didn't UKIP also hire a former BNP 'recruiter'?

 
Veritas: Yet another box for me to contemplate ticking...
Vanitas looks like the end of Kilroy's 'second' political career. He's no more truthful than any of his peers - he would've been out of UKIP ages ago if he really didn't believe in their cause, as opposed to their leadership.

Should've stuck to talk shows, at least he was good at that.

 

Offline IceFire

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So, wait...whats the problem with multiculturalism?  Is the problem that there's all sorts of new people in your country?  Or is the problem that there are all sorts of new people living in your country but that never went through any official channels?

What happens if I wanted to move over there for a year or two?  Is that ok or not? :)  

That'd be kinda neat actually.  Apparently I could even get dual citizenship because of family heritage but thats beside the point.  Whats the real issue?  I'm a little confused.
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Offline Rictor

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The real issue is:

Country X is traditionally and primarily of X culture. They have their bars, their customs, their dirty hand gestures and so forth. Suddenly, People Y start moving in in large number, legally or otherwise (it really doesn't make too much difference). Suddenly, its not a matter of Culture X and Culture Y existing side by side, but Culture Y is actually supplanting Culture X as the primary national culture.

Like I said, Canada is pretty much unique in the world since its national identity has been defined for almost 50 years by diversity. Its not so much a matter of hating foreign people, as preffering "your people" to any other, which I think is fine.

However, I forsee this becoming less and less of an issue, since the younger generations identify less and less with national idenity in the face of the global village and all that crap. In a hundred years, my guess is that people will think of themselves merely as human, instead of Chinese or Jamaican or whatever.,

 

Offline IceFire

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Interesting...good to understand a bit the viewpoint.  Is it really the case of British culture being supplanted by other cultures?

The United States is pretty culturally diverse too but they are all supposed to wave the flag and be Americans.  That seems to be the way it is.

In Canada its: "Everyone can fly a Canadian flag if you really want to, welcome to the country, I'm sure there's plenty of other people from your own culture you can associate with, but you can come and talk with the rest of us if you really want to."

I guess the thing is that most Canadians are "immigrants" at some point....a seventh generation or first.  Its not really true, due to the passage of time, for England.  I guess its just different.  Canadian culture is everyone elses culture...oh and we try and be real nice too because its so cold during the winter anyways we just want to be warm :D
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The United States is pretty culturally diverse too but they are all supposed to wave the flag and be Americans.  That seems to be the way it is.


It is and that's fine, as long as they come in legally IE through the official immigration checkpoints and become citizens if they intend to stay permanently.  What I don't like is when a group moves in to an area, sets up shop, and recreates the country they left to the exclusion of the surrounding populace.
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I agree with Liberator 100%. In addition it's probably worth noting that the US also has the space and resources to grow to support an enlarged population. England has neither. Our country is already overcrowded and quality of life is dropping accordingly. As a result a lot of people out there are really quite cranky.
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