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Offline WMCoolmon

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As I don't understand networks and their relation to series', can anyone explain what the chances are, and what would have to heppen for, another channel - SciFi, let's say - to pick the series up? Also, how likely is Scott Bakula's past history (Quantum Leap) to affect a decision by the SciFi channel?


Enterprise has been pretty controversial among fans. If this were just some not-so-well-known series with Bakula his past history might influence it, in this case, I suspect it'll be more of a series-based decision. Sci-Fi does show TOS, but SpikeTV shows DS9 and TNG. SpikeTV seems more like where Enterprise would end up.
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Of course one thing that should be taken into consideration, is that Enterprise is, despite a budget cut after the 3rd season, still a very expensive show. B5's budget was, if memory serves me, roughly 900 000$ per episode, and SG-1 had a budget of roughly 1.4 M when it was picked up by Sci-Fi ('tis bigger now). Enterprise ran at over 2M before the budget cut, and is now at some 1.6-1.7 M (even though the actual price a network, such as UPN has to pay Paramount for one episode has been reduced to 800 000$, but as this is more than two times smaller than the actual cost of an episode, it is highly unlikely that Paramount would continue selling the show at this price, even if another network should decide to pick it up), and Sci-Fi already has three high-budget shows (SG-1, Atlantis and the new BSG), so it is highly unlikely that they have the money to pay for Enterprise.
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Originally posted by Stunaep
Of course one thing that should be taken into consideration, is that Enterprise is, despite a budget cut after the 3rd season, still a very expensive show. B5's budget was, if memory serves me, roughly 900 000$ per episode, and SG-1 had a budget of roughly 1.4 M when it was picked up by Sci-Fi ('tis bigger now). Enterprise ran at over 2M before the budget cut, and is now at some 1.6-1.7 M (even though the actual price a network, such as UPN has to pay Paramount for one episode has been reduced to 800 000$, but as this is more than two times smaller than the actual cost of an episode, it is highly unlikely that Paramount would continue selling the show at this price, even if another network should decide to pick it up), and Sci-Fi already has three high-budget shows (SG-1, Atlantis and the new BSG), so it is highly unlikely that they have the money to pay for Enterprise.


Sci-Fi wouldn't be alone in paying for it. There are networks in non-US countries that pay for shows as well. [/duh]

SkyOne in the UK probably pays a good chunk for SG-1, especially considering they're airing new episodes 5 weeks ahead of Sci-Fi. Still, WMCoolmon is right... it would probably have a better chance of ending up on SpikeTV... or better yet, in syndication.

 

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ENTERPRISE NEEDS TO LIVE!!!!


season 3 Xindi conflict ROCKED and god damnit i like star trek :(
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Offline Nuke

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the problem with the last two treks is the characters were very poor. the average federation type seemslike a chicken**** wussie. tos had some intresting character interaction, i still get cracked up by the interactions between mcoy spock and kirk. those 3 were inseperable. infact tos didnt have a single regular character i didnt like.

the tng characters were not as good as the first but at least they didnt totally suck. data's character was good untill the movies started coming out, giving him his emotion chip really screwed up his character. but during the series he was unique. everyones first impression was hey its another spock but its still vastly a diferent personality. worf was an interesting character just by the fact that he was a klingon. kinda unlocked the secrets of a former enemy. it was really cool when ds9 picked him up for the dominion war. cheif obrian was cool as well, its always nice to have a tough irish guy on any show. picard was ok his strong point was his acting skill though. and of course troy and crusher, because every scifi show nedes some hotties. i met troy at a trek convention a great many years ago. damn shes hot.

then ds9, which had some good secondary characers. quark was intresting but it took a couple seasons for his character to grow on me. i was kinda disapointed that the series never went up against the borg, save the pilot which showed the battle of wolf359, id have liked to seen sisco on a rematch. sisco's character was ok, nothing spectacular. garak was one of my favorites, as he always had a secret. the interactions between bashir worf and obiran were much reminicent of the kirk, spock, mccoy relationship, firendly but always trying to show eachother up.

then of course voyager, which didnt have a single character i liked. even 7 of 9, who aside from being a hottie seemed like they were doing the worf thing over again. vulcan characters were a bad idea for two reasons. the first being is that you could never top spock, the second is that generally they have very boring personalities, you can only take so much logic before you get tired of it.

enterprise i didnt even watch long enough to learn the names of all the characters. it seems like they were trying to rip off the best characters from all the other series.

when you look at b5, stargate, or bsg, even the new atlantis, the characters are all good. i was suprised how fast the atlantis crew grew on me. that mckay is halarious, reminds me of a boss i once had. a perfect example of how a wussie character can be a cool addition if done properly. one of the reasons crusade flopped was because the characters were lacking. now its treks turn to get the same wakeup call.
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Offline Tiara

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then of course voyager, which didnt have a single character i liked.

I might not like Voyager, but the guy who played Tuvok played a perfect Vulcan role IMHO. He wasn't meant to emulate Spock because Spock wasn't a real Vulcan, Tuvok was. Comparing the two is just stupid.
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Offline Flipside

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Besides, Tuvok was a laugh in the out-takes...

'Man, I aint going in there!' LOL

Not to mention the 1:20 long 'Phaser shot' scene ;)

That said, it would be intersting to see a series based about the Marquis and the private war against the Cardassians, but I don't see that happening because someone is bound to accuse it of gloryfying terrorism.

 

Offline vyper

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Look at it this way, the BBC banned an episode of TNG because Data made a one line reference to the IRA "winning".

The annoying part is it meant we missed a very good speech to Crusher by one of the terrorists.
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Offline Flipside

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Actually, I saw/acquired that particular one, I remember the speech as well, kinda ironic really ;)

  

Offline Tiara

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Originally posted by Flipside
Besides, Tuvok was a laugh in the out-takes...

'Man, I aint going in there!' LOL

Not to mention the 1:20 long 'Phaser shot' scene ;)

Yes, that was indeed hilarious :lol:
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Offline Ashrak

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a series about klingons would be teh r0xXorZ
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Offline Nuke

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id like a series set in the enterprise c era. or one with captain sulu on the uss excelsior, but sulu is a little old :D
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Offline Liberator

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But slightly caca, I mean who would the viewer relate to?  Show become popular because the viewers develop an emotional attachment to one or more of the characters(it doesn't have to be a "positive" emotion either).  The only characters I even remotely like on the show are Trip(p?), Hoshi and Shran when he shows up(he manages to upstage everyone when he walks in the room:D ) and none of them have the depth of Londo Molari from B5.  The rest of them are just "meh!".  That said, this season thing were begining to turn around, with the short arcs and the realization of pieces of the backstory(though slightly out of place temporally), Enterprise was getting good and leaveing it's truly awful 1st and 2nd seasons in the dust.  The only problem left was the over-moralizing the captain and others seem to do ad hominem.
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Offline vyper

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If you ever mention the Enterprise C again I'll hurt you. Especially with those uniforms with the missing white collar!

Enterprise had great potential and it was finally being exploited. This is the end people, Paramount will squeeze every last pop-culture version of Trek out over the next five years and that's it - the great bird will be officially spinning in his grave (or rather his ionized ashes will crackly violently around the sun).
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Offline Nuke

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trek uniforms have always looked gay. all those bright colors, ewe. they should wear something like the police uniforms in mad max :D
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Offline Flipside

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hehehehe I think the general idea was to give the opposite impression ;)

The uniform colours were sort of a carry-over from TOS, which filmed in the time of phsychadelia and tastelessness. ;)

I think they'd have done better with a darker uniform with just a single band of colour to denote their job :)

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Offline vyper

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Hey, the film uniforms from II onwards were very cool. They looked quite smart.

So what if we lost the short, low cut, female yeoman's outfi.... aww **** they should bring them back.
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