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Offline starfox

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Question about the size of the crew shuttle ?
I was watching B5 on the other day and noticed some PSI-Core Crew Shuttles en route to destroy the Earthforce security patrol.. The name of the episode was "Epiphanies", fourth season. The odd thing about these particular shuttles were that they were able to carry 4-5 Starfurys under their "belly". So are these shuttles the same PSI Crew Shuttles seen on TBP, or are they some larger variants ?

If not, shouldn't the crew shuttles in TBP be much larger to be able to carry at least 4 additional fighters ?

I noticed that these shuttles were normal ones, not PSI-ones. But they carried black-omega fighters.
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Weren't those shuttles referred to as carriers? I was under the impression that they were special use covert ships, unlike the Psi Corp shuttle that is just a shuttle with a fancy letter painted on. :p

 

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You may be right....I remember Bester referring these ships as "heavily armed transports". But since normal transports are not armed or anything, they could be some kind of small  carriers
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Those shuttles were just like the others. The ones in TBP SHOULD be bigger, but the team has not sized them right yet. (and that episode was cool)

 

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So, its its all about resizing those TBP
crew shuttles, I see.  Just another thing. Those shuttles are not armed, as far as I'm
aware. So why Bester spoke of "Heavily Armed" Transports. Did he lied ? Or were these ships specifically armed for that mission only. Or third alternative would be simply that Black-Omegas were it's "weapons"

"Epiphanies" is indeed one my favourite episodes too.
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I thinkt he crew shuttels can be armed with some weaponry of some sort. I rmember a few episodes where they where escorting large scale cap ships. So i guets they can be armed with a roket luncher/pack to give additional support to the cap ships. Also int he Movie "In The Begining" when you see the getthering of earth ship for the battle fo the line you can spot many crew shuttels in the pack that seem to take offencive positions. And yeah they are bigger in the show them the ones in TBP. So you could strp 3-4 furys under them and on top. But dunno if they have more range thne the furys, if they dont then its pointlest to strap furys on them.

 

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But dunno if they have more range thne the furys, if they dont then its pointlest to strap furys on them.


Except of course that you can presumably go to the bathroom onboard the shuttle, or get out of your flightsuit when you want to go to sleep. While that would require a transit from the shuttle interior to the fighter or vice-versa, that's probably not that big of a deal.
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I had totally forgotten "In the beginning"
Thanks for reminding me ! The President in fact asked the support of "every ship capable of fighting" so I think its clear that these crew shuttles can be armed when neccessary.
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Or they were just packed with explosives and ready to ram some Minbari boneheads.

 

Offline starfox

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That is also possible. Thinking that towards the end, Earthforce pilots didn't really cared much about their lives anymore.
Those touching scenes from "In the beginning" really give that impression.

"They would weep, They would pray, They would say goodbye to their loved ones, then throw themselves without fear or hesitation into the very face of death itself, never surrendering."
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Those shuttles were just like the others. The ones in TBP SHOULD be bigger, but the team has not sized them right yet. (and that episode was cool)


All the episodes involving Bester were cool.

 
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That is also possible. Thinking that towards the end, Earthforce pilots didn't really cared much about their lives anymore.
Those touching scenes from "In the beginning" really give that impression.

"They would weep, They would pray, They would say goodbye to their loved ones, then throw themselves without fear or hesitation into the very face of death itself, never surrendering."


Yeah thats true but they didnt ram the mimbary ships just to ram them they normaly ramed the mimbary because they couldn,t figth anymore. Like Sciclaire that treid to ram a mimbary war cruiser when he lost his weapons system and his power cells going critical.

 

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Right, "Beside good 'ol Nuke" ramming seemed to be the only 100 % way of disposing those damn bonehead Warcruisers. As is evident ramming was used as last resort, since Minbari did not took prisoners and surrendering a crippled ship was not on option.

So far we have only seen one Nova-class Dreadnought to commit ramming run.
I'm not sure about starfuries, thought I saw one or two them smashing into the top "fin" of the Sharlin, could have been accident though.
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Sinclair was also going to try ramming though. From his comments it did sound like he believed he could do some serious damage to the cruiser by raming it.
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About the size of the crew shuttle ?
If I remember right Sinclair said "Computer set for full velocity ram..afterburners on my mark."    To have the starfury computers loaded with that command they must have been using it allot.  You never heard that command givin through the rest of the series.
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Offline starfox

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Can't believe I forgot Sinclair's ramming.
To write the truth I never paid deep attention into that line. I just thought Sinclair was giving voice command to set his fighter to ram Sharlin, when in fact he apparently activated "ramming command" from Starfury's computer.

Feels logical to think that Starfury's were preloaded with last-resort commands.

Just to think how single fighter would cause considerable damage to Sharlin Warcruiser ? Perhaps he attempted to destroy Sharlin's bridge, or command center.
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About the size of the crew shuttle ?
Well if you watch Severed Dreams again when the debris from that exploding tunderbolt hits the command deck it does do some minor damage to it even through the blast doors.

That's part of why you need fighters in the B5 universe (To stop enemy fighters simply shooting at your vulnerable spots).
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We see more thne one Nova used raming. Ramming is a prety comond last resort technique in the EA.

In the movie "In the begining" We see one Nova ram a Sharling, we see one fot he firsts Omegas built Ram a Sharling int he back ground of that. If i remember right. We also saw some starfurys ram into the fins of a sharling. And then their is Sinclairs raming attemtp. Also in the defenc eof babylon 5 The Churchil rammed one of the Earth loyalist Destroyers.

And I think their wa s qutoe soemwher eint he series thta made reference to that, That Takign on the EA even if you where stornger then them was a grave mistake because they woudl never knell before an enemy.

 

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Captain Anderson and EAS Victory, from the "Call to arms" rams his ship into the primary system of the Shadow/Drakh
Deathcloud (I love those things, wish they had shown more of them in series)

"Severed Dreams" had some funny nameprobs. First Churchill rammed with Roanoke ! Then at the end, Sheridan urges Roanoke to surrender, but it was destroyed earlier, so the last Omega exploding had to be Agrippa. Speaking of, what hapened to the two Midwinters/Hyperions from the first wave ?

Despite these little...buggs. I found this episode very entertaining.
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Speaking of, what hapened to the two Midwinters/Hyperions from the first wave ?

Despite these little...buggs. I found this episode very entertaining.



Nailed off screen. And yeah, SD is full of continuity (sp?) erros but what the hell.