[Shrike]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
I still feel my views vaguely sumarised by Rage Against The Machines point made in one of their music video (which I don't have with me, so the text may be off slightly):
but I do consistentyl
"(x number) of Americans will not vote in the comming elections, simply for no real choice on the ballot."

Sure, we're talking about England - but my feeling is the same. The major parties have seemed to have a tendency to say anything they can to get the vote, then do none of the things they promised in the run up.

The solution of course is to make a new party.

[vyper]

Correction: Partay!

[Taristin]

Well, since I found a quote, and this is the closest thing to a political debate I could find () here it goes:

Q: How many Bush Administration officials does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. There is nothing wrong with the light bulb; its condition is improving every day. Any reports of its lack of incandescence are illusional spin from the liberal media. Illuminating rooms is hard work. That light bulb has served honorably, and anything you say undermines the lighting effort. Why do you hate freedom?

[WMCoolmon]

Actually, I think it's more like, "Only terrorists use light bulbs. We here in the US of A use bottle sunshine run through electrical wires!"

Or how about:

"They pass a new law mandating that no citizen may be allowed to change the light bulb, in case they plug some dangerous device into the socket, and form a national commission to study the security implications of importing another light bulb. It is then subcontracted to a business run by one of Bush's family, which imports the bulb from a light-bulb factory in a small third-world country taking advantage of its lax pollution laws. Finally, the building that contains the lightbulb is seized by a SWAT team, and the light bulb is finally installed."

John Kerry's response on these excesses:
"They may have X-rayed the light bulb, but they didn't open it to make sure no biological agents were inside!"

Ralph Nader's response:
"We need to find a clean way of producing light bulbs before our country can even begin to consider replacing them."

Fox News:
"Earlier today, the first light bulb was replaced under the 'Bright Sunshiney Day' act. Although no one except  is allowed to see whether the new bulb actually works or not, for matters of national security, the federal government informs us that everything *is* well and that any reports of unusual activity near the light bulb may or may not be true. We now turn you live, over to a fair and unbalanced debate as to whether or not the Democrats know that staring directly at a light bulb for long periods of time can harm your eyes, but do not publicize the fact. Tonight, the debate is between a Republican representative, Dick Cheney; a neutral party, Jeb Bush; and a Democratic Representative, Michael Jackson."

[TopAce]

I won't vote. I am not British.

[01010]

Around this area we have "Health Concern" which is a protest party formed after the closure of our local hospital. This is a heavily conservative area so my vote is going "Health Concern" to keep those scummy ****ing Tories out.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by 01010
Around this area we have "Health Concern" which is a protest party formed after the closure of our local hospital. This is a heavily conservative area so my vote is going "Health Concern" to keep those scummy ****ing Tories out.

Ah, so it's not just Scotland that has the inexplicable closure of hospitals*?  The 'Save Stobhill' (hospital) candidate in the constituency next to mine was actually elected in the last Scottish Parliament elections.

*It appears Labours grand plan is to close every single hospital in the entire country and instead build a gigantic monsterous single hospital that requires hours and hours to travel to

[01010]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Ah, so it's not just Scotland that has the inexplicable closure of hospitals*?  The 'Save Stobhill' (hospital) candidate in the constituency next to mine was actually elected in the last Scottish Parliament elections.

*It appears Labours grand plan is to close every single hospital in the entire country and instead build a gigantic monsterous single hospital that requires hours and hours to travel to

Our hospital closure started with the Conservatives, however Labour did precisely **** all to stop it.  Health Concern actually won this seat too, which is nice, keeps the Tories out. I just wish there was actually a REAL alternative.

Yeah, we now have a "Super Hospital" at Worcester, which is a good 20 miles away, you better hope that when you get sick, you don't need *immediate* attention otherwise you are ****ed.

[Flipside]

In a way it is good to see these minor parties taking seats from large ones. It might actually, with time, suggest to them that there are certain aeras of their policies where they have to deal with things on a 1-1 basis and not try to install a set of rules and then go on holiday to Antigua for 2 months.

This always cracks me up about our government though, they want to compact local hospitals into one large area one, but yet have done absolutely **** all to improve the transport system to a level where that will actually work, and probably will do nothing about getting people to these hospitals until after they are open and people are dying because of poor roads/transportation.

[Taristin]

Hmm. These little groups are winning, eh?  This is like what my mother read about one of the old towns I lived in, where the people were so fed up with the town council that they elected an 18 year old to office over the 60-something year old that had been there.

I may run some time

[Kosh]

Snuffleupagus







EDIT: Whoa, this one is really winning.....

[vyper]

"Some ****'s getting chibbed for that..."

[01010]

Originally posted by Raa
Hmm. These little groups are winning, eh?  This is like what my mother read about one of the old towns I lived in, where the people were so fed up with the town council that they elected an 18 year old to office over the 60-something year old that had been there.

I may run some time

I think you should. I think that more young people should be involved with politics, it's how things get changed. How does some middle aged rich public schoolboy with his ideas on how things should be run represent anyone but middle aged rich public schoolboys. We should be gettting actively involved in the political process while we still have the chance, before the avenues are closed to us to make a difference and before we become an oppressed people.

It is absolutely vital that we young people stand up for what we believe while we have the chance.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by kietotheworld
Which brings up an interseting point, how come there is a Scotish Parliment, a Welsh Parliment and a British Parliment, but no English Parliment?

It's so that the Scottish and Welsh Labour MPs can screw us over by voting in proposals that won't affect their own constituencies e.g tuition fees.

Quite frankly it's a big con and if Scotland and Wales have a right to tell the English to butt out of local policies I think the English should have exactly the same right.

The British parliment should only be voting on laws which affect the whole of the UK. No more of this test the poll tax in Scotland or everyone voting on laws that only affect England.


I'll probably be voting Lib Dem as a protest vote. Not voting at all in protest is just stupid. No one can tell the difference between protest and laziness.


BTW. Just noticed a couple of votes for the BNP. Were's my garotte.

[Kie99]

I'd edit that post if I were you.

(I fear the Admins )

[Black Wolf]

We ought to send the poll off to some british Polis and see if anyone tries to get snuffulupagus to direct preferences...

[karajorma]

Originally posted by kietotheworld
I'd edit that post if I were you.

(I fear the Admins )

What the hell for?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by karajorma


It's so that the Scottish and Welsh Labour MPs can screw us over by voting in proposals that won't affect their own constituencies e.g tuition fees.

Quite frankly it's a big con and if Scotland and Wales have a right to tell the English to butt out of local policies I think the English should have exactly the same right.

The British parliment should only be voting on laws which affect the whole of the UK. No more of this test the poll tax in Scotland or everyone voting on laws that only affect England.

I'll probably be voting Lib Dem as a protest vote. Not voting at all in protest is just stupid. No one can tell the difference between protest and laziness.

BTW. Just noticed a couple of votes for the BNP. Were's my garotte.

Actually, the introduction of top-up fees has a major effect on Scottish and Welsh universities (for example); firstly it brings in a funding differential, secondly it affects Scottish and Welsh students who may wish to study in England, and thirdly it results in an increased amount of applications for Scottish & Welsh universities from English students.  In the latter case, it raises significant issues over 'national' boundaries.

I suspect you'll find the majority of similar issues will have a similar and significant knock on effect on Scotland and Wales; that's why Scottish and Welsh MPs vote on them.

[Kie99]

originally Posted by Shrike

Originally Posted by Aldo_14

Originally posted by Shrike
I cast my vote for the Nazis. Because Nazis have cool uniforms.

What, the BNP?

That's why.  and I fear them because they could Ban me.

[Flipside]

LOL Yeah, but that's....Shrike, you just hae to look at his Avatar ...