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Zephrym Cochrane + shotgun = DEAD Vulcan

F*CKIN HILLARIOUS

Nearly peed my pants in laughter.

Mirror universe PORTHOS "The destroyer".... ROTFL
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ROTFL.... OWNED!!!!
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caught the rerun. yeah, it was pretty cool. i can't wait until next episode when the run around and blow stuff! :D

one thing bothered me, though. The characters seemed too evil. i know they are supposed to be, but they just didn't seem like real people the way they did the evil thing so over the top.
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one thing bothered me, though. The characters seemed too evil.


Of course. Because as the Professor has taught us, when you're in another universe, it's often populated by evil twins. ;)
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and not one goatee...


Yet!
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OK people... I had a brainstorm while I was at work today, and I realized what separates the standard ST universe from the Mirror universe, and its so simple!!  It all ties back to a causality paradox that didn't happen in the parallel universe.  Incase you're not familiar with a causality paradox, it means that someone or something from the future, travels into the past, interacts with that past in a way that you would expect to change things, but in actuality changes things to what they were supposed to be.  However, if that event in the past is crucial to lead up to the point in the future when the time traveller departed from, why was it already there in the past.  Basically, something like that shouldn't be allowed to exist, but it does.  Enough for theory, on to the specific events.

Since its all cyclical, its difficult to pick a point to start in, but I'll try.  I'll start in ST:TNG season 3, the Borg attack Earth and fail.  Then, during ST:FC, they try again, Borg ship destroyed but it launches the sphere which travels back in time, followed by the Enterprise.  The Borg ship fires on Cochrane's launch site, but is itself destroyed by the Enterprise, then plumets through the atmosphere and lands in the frozen wasteland of Antarctica.  Members of the Enterprise crew beam down and eventually reveal the truth to Cochrane and in the events that follow, make him the man that Federation history records him to be.  Then, during Enterprise season 2, the Borg from the sphere are revived, assimalate people, steal a ship and ultimately manage to send a slow-speed transmission to the rest of the collective.  The time of arrival and their expect response time prompt the Borg to send an exploratory mission to the Neutral zone where they attack and sample Federation and Romulan technology as mentioned in the TNG season 2 prmiere.  If not for that transmission, they woudn't have come and they wouldn't have attempted invasions twice, wouldn't have gone back in time and wouldn't have interfered with First Contact.  As I said above, no one  of these events is the trigger, and by all rights this causality paradox shouldn't exist, but it does... however in the Mirror universe, this paradox doesn't exist.

In the Mirror Universe, officers from the Enterprise-E weren't present to influence Cochrane, n'or were the Borg there to attack the facility.  Because the Borg never came, there was no leftovers from their sphere to awaken and contact the Collective during season 2 of Enterprise.  Cochrane, not having been enlightened by his time with Riker, Troy, and the rest, not having been given a glimpse of the future that he would help create, was more concerned with protecting what he'd made, and so he pulled out a shotgun, and blew away the Vulcan.  From then on, we have a different series of events, all precipitated by the lack of a certain causality paradox.  After all, if a causality paradox shouldn't be allowed to exist, whose to say that the laws of temporal physics in the mirror universe aren't such that such a paradox can't exist and as such doesn't.  No signal was sent to lure the Borg to our side of the galaxy, and by the time Q would have sent the Enterprise to that side of the Galaxy during TNG season 2, the Empire had been overwhelmed and crushed, and the human race was enslaved, as per the DS9 episode late in Season 2.  The Borg never came, so the Mirror universe became what we've seen.  Their only influence is in contact with people and technology from the Federation side, starting with the current Enterprise episode, followed by the TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror", then on to a series of episodes on DS9, all because the Borg never came, in either the future or the past.

Well, that's it.  That's the root difference.

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Jesus, you thought of all that at work?

Did you get any actual work done?
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TP: That actually makes a lot of sense. :)

 

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That does make sense, but it doesn't explain everything. Look at the intro: it shows the HMS Enterprize as a warship, etc, etc... Plus, the astronaut with the Terran Empire flag on the moon... Also(non-canon), on the Wiki entry for "Mirror Universe," it says that Plato sung the praises of having fear as a powerful tool in a leader's arsenal.
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http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/3501.html

The Enterprise issue makes no sense Ghost - the first six HMS Enterprises (all British bar the first which was captured from the French) were Gun Frigates (the biggest being 44-gun).

The only "old" Enterprise to be a ship of exploration launched in 1848. She cannot be the one referred to in the intro sequence as the script says "Enterprize" - which was no longer the way of spelling her name in 1848 (at least in her commisioned name).

It should be noted that until the advent of aircraft carriers the British "Enterprises" were by far the most heavily armed, and the most varied - they were everything from RN tugs to RN Aux Fishing boats.

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http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/3499.html
Some comfort could be gained in knowing the current HMS Enterprise (2002) is a Hydrographic survey vessel - exploring the new earth bound frontier of the deep.
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Jesus, you thought of all that at work?

Did you get any actual work done?


Actually, it was late in my shift and things were gearing down somewhat (I work retail, so customer traffic was dropping) and my mind drifed back to last night's Enterprise episode, and wondered what posessed Cochrane to shoot the Vulcan.  I was thinking about whether the Enterprise-E crew were there in the Mirror Universe, then the ideas of temporal causality came in to my mind and a couple seconds later when I made the connection, I remember stopping what I was doing and saying "OHhhh MAAAAN!" out loud as the various degrees of coolness (pun definitely not intended) hit me.  I spent the rest of my shift and the walk home, running things though my mind trying to search for flaws in that theory, and planning how I would word my post in this thread.

@Goob: Thanks man. :)
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Vyper: Okay, understood. Explain the Terran Empire flag on the moon.
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Offline Nuclear1

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nuke, your sig is too long. get rid of the spaces.


Hehe, just for you, Carl ;)
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Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
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Vyper: Okay, understood. Explain the Terran Empire flag on the moon.


From what I remember the astronaut was in a starfleet uniform. So it was most likely a re-landing on the moon. (claiming it in the name of the Empire now)

It would have been even better for this theory if the American flag left by Apollo 11 was knocked down and replaced by the Imperial flag :)

The Enterprise title is notorious for having events out of chronological order, so this would make sense.

Personally, I would have had the current Earth government be something like: "The Terran Commonwealth" which is then replaced by the Empire when Archer declares himself Emporer Archer I and uses the Defiant to wipe out both the rebel and Terran fleets to seize power.

But, part two might still be just as fun :)
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your all right ... and yes the borg were the turning point ... heck for all we know ... the borg are the good guys in mirror uni
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