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Offline Joey_21

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Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
 
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Originally posted by Carl:
but wouldn't that mean Capella is a binary star system? i'm pretty sure it isn't.

It isn't. I'm talking about the system beyond the second Knossos. The system where you almost get squished by a Sathanas. (Yea! That system!   ) That system is where Bosch was during that cutscene and that system is binary and that system also has the other star feeding star material off it.  

 

Offline Carl

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Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
na-ah. that those stars were blue. the cutscene ones were yellow and white.
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Originally posted by Joey_21:
That system is where Bosch was during that cutscene and that system is binary and that system also has the other star feeding star material off it.  

Wasent that in Sirius System or some other system in that cluster  

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Offline Joey_21

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Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
 
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Originally posted by Carl:
na-ah. that those stars were blue. the cutscene ones were yellow and white.

Possible (another) Intercrack screw up cutscene.

 
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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0:
Wasent that in Sirius System or some other system in that cluster  

I don't know. I think Bosch was already beyond the portal by that cutscene. I can't remember though. But by the looks of the picture below, it looks like Bosch was actually in that system...

denebsystem0.tripod.com/mara2stars.jpg

 
Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Natch, that's a Nova

Yep, you are right, just checked an old book of mine. It requires a red giant and a white dwarf.

 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Nah, it's called 'I happen to have an astrophysics book with that info.'  

 
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Offline Kazan

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Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:

Never heard about a star feeding from another one...

not unheard of in binary systems, but it probably was a blackhole - the companion star had blown to pieces

recent research has also shown that supernovae can happen in even low mass stars - and turning into white dwarfs can happen to even ultra-heavy stars.... i guess it just depends on factors we cannot detect at distance at this time

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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
 Aren't black holes invisible?

Only at the singularity, which, depending on the black hole's charge and whether or not it is spinning, can be either a single point or a huge, thin donut shape (kind of like a hollow frisbee).

A black hole floating along in space will be invisible, technically, but its effects on everything around it can sometimes be seen. Firstly, black holes bend light from behind the viewpoint around them, so there is a light distortion around the gravity well with black at the centre (no light can escape from there). If there is gas or matter within reach of the black hole's gravity, an accretion disc will form, where material heats up and gives off radiation as it moves closer to the singularity.

In this example, we can see there is a (possible) black hole there, as its effects on the star next to it are obvious.
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Offline wEvil

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Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
the current big suspect is cygnus X-1, thats appears to be a binary star system with one of the heavy masses giving off massive X-ray emissions.

Black holes CAN be visible, it depends on how massive they are.  While it hasnt been directly observed, some phycisists beleive that a low-mass black hole would distort space so suddenly (when the gravity well goes vertical) that virtual particles would be ripped apart and the black hole would actually emit a particle and lose it from the holes' mass.

So small black holes could actually be radiating particles and energy at a high rate.

I'd reckon the bosch cutscene was a white dwarf binary system.  Neutron stars magnetic poles concentrate ions into a stream that would be pretty dangerous if you were that close to one.

 

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Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
 
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Originally posted by Carl:
but wouldn't that mean Capella is a binary star system? i'm pretty sure it isn't.

I think this is a case of what's good for the game but isn't true in reality.

The real Capella is actually four stars.

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Discussion: Another Possible Supernova
 
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Originally posted by wEvil:
Black holes CAN be visible, it depends on how massive they are.  While it hasnt been directly observed, some phycisists beleive that a low-mass black hole would distort space so suddenly (when the gravity well goes vertical) that virtual particles would be ripped apart and the black hole would actually emit a particle and lose it from the holes' mass.

So small black holes could actually be radiating particles and energy at a high rate.


This is Hawkins radiation, named after the famous scientist that discovered it. And not only the small black holes, all the black holes emmit this radiaton. Its the way the universe will die. In the very very very distant future all the matter will be absorbed by imense black holes and after even more time than that this black holes will explode giving only energy.
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