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Offline Raven2001

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While it looks amazing, it doesn't capture enough fear. It looks to much machine, and not enough BIO stuff, like bones and flesh.

However with textures, it might change my mind.;)
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Damn fine work Raven,  now what's your next project?
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Offline FireCrack

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Originally posted by WeatherOp
While it looks amazing, it doesn't capture enough fear. It looks to much machine, and not enough BIO stuff, like bones and flesh.

However with textures, it might change my mind.;)
actualy, mabye not.
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when both the ravana and the lucifer gets done......its going to be one hell of a fear show

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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It'd look better if some of the more obvious polygons were smoothed IMHO.

That being said, I like what you've done with the small side tubes.
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Offline CaptJosh

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Looking at that model, I just realized what an ugly-a** ship the Ravana is. You really can't tell so much in the nebula, but it's got a very...ad-hoc, slapped-together-out-of-spare-parts look.
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i don't recognize it anymore. :nervous:
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Looking at that model, I just realized what an ugly-a** ship the Ravana is. You really can't tell so much in the nebula, but it's got a very...ad-hoc, slapped-together-out-of-spare-parts look.


Damn, that's what it reminds me of...Reavers! Especially that ship in the pilot ep of Firefly.
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Offline CP5670

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This looks very good in general, but the bottom part of the claw thing in the front has too much of a Terran, industrial look to it. Make the pointy ends sharper there. I think the two pipes would look better if rounded out a lot more, although I like the idea of having spikes on them.

I can't wait to see a textured version of this. The Ravana was one my favorite ships in FS2.

 

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:jaw: Very impressive! It would look so much better smoothed, though...
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What's woth those spiky ends at the bottom? Why do they have hte gridery look?

IMHO, I don't like it when people change the basic desing too much. Adding detail is one thing, and evn adding a few small changes here and there - but the ship must be as close to the original as possible.
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i agreed with trashman here

 

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I disagree. I think there's a certain degree of artistic license that can be taken, using concept art and the overall ship aesthetic. I don't mind some mechanical looking bits, particularly as there's a metal plate-like modeling and texturing around the entrances to the fighterbay and engines, etc.
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I also think there should be a certain amount of artistic leeway here. However, the grid-type modelling really just doesn't fit with the shivans. Their ships look like shells to a crab, not bulkheads to a ship. The plates on the center section and where it connects to the dorsal main body (too hard to describe. Resorted to fish terms) are a prime example of how shivan ships should have armor.

So overall, very cool but it needs to lose the cross-beams in favor of more shivan-ish armor plating.

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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There's no problem with artistic license as long as it adds to the original effect of the ship.

Of course, that being entirely subjective (both the effect, and whether the changes add to it), it can be hard to tell whether there's a problem or not. :p
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I also think there should be a certain amount of artistic leeway here. However, the grid-type modelling really just doesn't fit with the shivans. Their ships look like shells to a crab, not bulkheads to a ship. The plates on the center section and where it connects to the dorsal main body (too hard to describe. Resorted to fish terms) are a prime example of how shivan ships should have armor.

So overall, very cool but it needs to lose the cross-beams in favor of more shivan-ish armor plating.


I actually vehemently disagree with that statement.  There are Shivan ships that do (the Mara, Rakshasa, and Sathanas) but many more that actually have very obvious hull plating in what we actually often associate with being a Terran style (Demon, Lucifer, Moloch, Lilith, the FS1-era fighters, Ravana).  I think they sort of fit (though they should be sharper) the way Raven's modeled them, pending how they are textured.  They aren't straight-up grids, which helps out considerably.
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Offline Ulala

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Take all I say with a grain of salt.

Meh... the Ravana is my favorite capship in FS2 easy, and this one is looking great! However, there's just something about it that doesn't seem quite right. I think it's the "grid" stuff that people are referring to? I've circled the things that aren't sitting quite right with me in red:



And the large spikes on the top seem a little short? Circled in blue.



Anyway, once textured, the grid things certainly won't stand out quite as much, so I won't make any real suggestions until I see a textured version. Excellent work, Raven!
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Offline Raven2001

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I see there's a wee bit of controversy about the "grid" thingies...

Here's the catch: if you look at the lucifer, cain\lilith and nephilim, what do you see?? Lots of triangles. I thought it would look cool if the ravana would have a feature like that, and the only way I found of doing it without breaking the model was this...

The idea will be to have some sort of windows or "flesh" visible beneath the hull. And I guess that seeing those triangles glow in the dark will be cool to see

As for those claws, remember they still need the turrets to be spiky :)
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