[Taristin]

being sodomized by AAA fire for the rest of eternity?


Was my choice...

[WeatherOp]

I don't know whitch one I like more, while the Atum will have a BFVas, it is by no means a uberbeam. But, the Oblivion will have Multiple beams.

[phatosealpha]

Forget beams entirely.  I want a capship armed with maxims, kaysers, and trebuchets.  and if that means ripping off the turrets and bolting a damned erinyes to the hull, that's fine by me.

[Annorax]

Originally posted by phatosealpha
Forget beams entirely.  I want a capship armed with maxims, kaysers, and trebuchets.  and if that means ripping off the turrets and bolting a damned erinyes to the hull, that's fine by me.

Sigged.

[WMCoolmon]

Someone should make a capship like that.

Hell, maybe they could employ Bobb's animation code combined with Goober's docking code to make a ship with turrets that could double as fighterbays.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Raa
being sodomized by AAA fire for the rest of eternity?


Was my choice...

Commencing plasma core insertion

[NGTM-1R]

Heh.

Should have seen that coming...

[-Vulture-]

Well, for the visual effect i would prefer one uberbeam which slowly loads with a characteristic *Sssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuüüüüüüümmmmm*(^^) and a huge beam.
But from the tactics-side more smaller, but still powerful beams are better, cause they are harder to destroy.

[WMCoolmon]

Nothing would look cooler than 8 tiny SReds, arrayed in a circle, blazing away at some distant destroyer.

It'd be like an Octahedron of Hell.

[Boomer]

All right, what's with this "easy to destroy" thing?

Think about what you're saying.  Don't you think it would occur to the people that these devastating uberbeams would make great targets so the designers might more heavily armor and protect them than they would another turret?

*Stops, realizes he's making unfair assumptions as to the intelligence of GTVA Command*

Any NORMAL person or group would realize this weakness and harden the turret through the addition of more anti-fighter\bomber defenses around the beam.  Besides, have we forgotten that we have to mount these on big ships.

Big Ships With Fighterbays?

I mean come on!  And I know someone is going to bring up Trebuchets, so here's my solution to that:  EMP missiles.  Shuts down warheads in flight.

[General Freak]

Not permanently, and you can't shoot down missiles. And a cap ship isn't going to outrun anything.

[WMCoolmon]

That's what energy shields on capships are for.

[Boomer]

Yeah, remember Bob's (I think) Shielded Deimos?  Only the turrets were shielded.  And a capship could put up a powerful enough shield to keep out a couple of Trebs methinks...

In addition,  remember, this turret has lots o' hitpoints.  Who says that a fighter\bomber will have enough uninterrupted time to sit there and pump Treb after Treb or Bomb after Bomb into the turret without:

A)  Getting thoroughly sodomized by AAA beams.

B)  Getting Blasted to bits by a Fighter.

C)  Getting run over a la Bearbaiting.

[Janos]

Originally posted by Boomer
Yeah, remember Bob's (I think) Shielded Deimos?  Only the turrets were shielded.  And a capship could put up a powerful enough shield to keep out a couple of Trebs methinks...

In addition,  remember, this turret has lots o' hitpoints.  Who says that a fighter\bomber will have enough uninterrupted time to sit there and pump Treb after Treb or Bomb after Bomb into the turret without:

A)  Getting thoroughly sodomized by AAA beams.

B)  Getting Blasted to bits by a Fighter.

C)  Getting run over a la Bearbaiting.

If this was even a bit more realistic game, I'd go ahead and say a quick lightning attack with light bombers, with focused firepower brought to bear in as short amount of time as possible, would solve every single tactical situation the GTVA command finds themselves confronting.

Althouth against a god damn Sathanas they threw a wing of Bakhas, and out of those four only the wing leader had any idea what to do, so durrrrrr.

[WMCoolmon]

One of them had a pretty good idea of what to do "Shoot the flak guns or we'll be cut to shreds!"

It's just that none of them could fly worth a damn. Or use anything more effective than an Akheton.

Besides that mission has my favorite quote, if you manage to keep your wingman alive:

"The Beleth has arrived. Command is well informed."

"Then they must know this mission is suicide!"

[Charismatic]

Smaller beams is the way to go. Pritty colors!

[Boomer]

I think I may be misunderstood.  I don't mean having one forward facing turret as opposed to multiple turrets covering all sides, I mean one big turret as opposed to several smaller ones within the space taken up by the big turret, but all facing forward.

Only an idiot would put the beam weapons on a ship so that they only covered the forward of a warship...Right?

[NGTM-1R]

There's an armada of Rakshasas and Ravanas outside.

They want to talk to you.

[Nuclear1]

The Lliths and Cains don't look too happy either...

[General Freak]

Neither do the Sathanas.

You owe our arch enemies the Shivans an apology, I think. ;P