[Pnakotus]

Originally posted by BlackDove
You can if said opinion is supported with facts that don't make sense.

Oh noes!  I pointed out that FS1 looks like a ten year-old, barely accelerated game and asked why people play retail FS2 when SCP is right there!  That makes me a nasty horrible man!  Raa totally misrepresenting me and critisizing my taste in games is, of course, beyond reproach.

Your sterling vivisection of my post may well be the height of this decades culture.  It wasn't a totally baseless piece of garbage at all, and I'm sure it contributed something beyond 'OMGZOR u disageed wit me!!!111'.

Oh, and to head of the likely responses from the dumb**** brigade: I have never said that FS1 is a bad game.  There's nothing wrong with liking FS1, and I own the damn thing.  It's more fun than retail FS2.   I said it looks like ****.

[NGTM-1R]

To be perfectly honest, looking side-by-side at FS1 and retail FS2, FS1 looks better. It has better texturing. Seriously, it does. Nothing in FS2 has the eye-candy value of the Arcadia or Orion textures. None of FS2's texturing work measures up to the Lucifer. FS2 ships rely on their shape to visually memorable, not their coloration. (Why do you think so many comparisons are drawn between the shape of FS2 ships and other things, but not FS1 ships?)

A Deimos, the Iceni, the Colossus...the tiling is killing me here...

[Night Wolf]

I myself really don’t care.i like them both for there gameplay and the in-depth story line with the history that flies around it.

[BlackDove]

Originally posted by Pnakotus


Oh noes!  I pointed out that FS1 looks like a ten year-old, barely accelerated game and asked why people play retail FS2 when SCP is right there!  That makes me a nasty horrible man!  Raa totally misrepresenting me and critisizing my taste in games is, of course, beyond reproach.

Your sterling vivisection of my post may well be the height of this decades culture.  It wasn't a totally baseless piece of garbage at all, and I'm sure it contributed something beyond 'OMGZOR u disageed wit me!!!111'.

Oh, and to head of the likely responses from the dumb**** brigade: I have never said that FS1 is a bad game.  There's nothing wrong with liking FS1, and I own the damn thing.  It's more fun than retail FS2.   I said it looks like ****.

Wow. You need serious mental help. Seek now before it's too late.

I'm actually sorry I said anything. Waste of time.

[Fenrir]

So....remind me why you're attacking him so when you haven't presented a single fact for your side of the argument?

[Nuclear1]

Because when BlackDove "insults" someone, it's funny and not meant to be taken seriously.

[BlackDove]

Originally posted by Fenrir
So....remind me why you're attacking him so when you haven't presented a single fact for your side of the argument?

I don't know, maybe because my side of the argument is obivous?

He's whining about a guy missinterperting HIS post, when his post was a missinterpertation of the guy's post he's complaining about.

That warrants severe mental help in itself.

After that, he's trying to insult the rest of us who disagree with his marvelous opinion, based on la-la-land theories and fairy tales?

That was just sad though.

He made one valid question - why people prefer FS2 retail over the SCP?

Gee, maybe the people who use 1.2 have outdated computers? Maybe they don't want to hassle with the SCP because it isn't streamlined? Maybe it crashes for them because they don't have the proper equipment to run it?

ONOZ! SENSE OF REALITY.

There I broke it down partially for you. You can carry over the rest.

Somebody please close this travesty.

[Fenrir]

Eh, I don't think any side of any argument should be taken as "obvious." Both sides can claim that clause and get you precisely nowhere.

Yes, there was unwarrented insult on his part. I'm not of the opinion that it warrented an equal display on your part though. Such things tend to go against what you're arguing for in the first place.

[BlackDove]

You seem to be coming from a place where you haven't encountered many of these discussions so you seem eager on the argument stage.

Common rules don't apply here. You either have it, or you don't. The best you can do is try to shut the hell up and observe if you don't have it, and endure until you do, otherwise you'll get your head torn off.

Hence - obvious. Some of us have been here for awhile. We don't like it when a retard comes in, and starts shouting incoherent nonsense, followed by childhood defence systems of inept insults.

It's not the insulting that bothers me really. It's the fact that it's BORING that does. Like listening to a broken record with every new know-it-all superman that registers.

[Fenrir]

Heh. I can see your point there.

[achtung]

This thread feels very "edgy"

[Night Wolf]

This can be a T.V show it has all the right stuff the bad guy the her.... well everbody is the bad guy.

[CP5670]

I love reading these types of threads...

Anyway, I'm actually playing the FS1 campaign again myself. I got the game back in 1998 when it first came out, for $55. The port is nice but it's missing quite a few things from the original game and is not really a true replacement for that.

Saying that FS1 looks bad is like saying that the original Doom has poor graphics. Of course it looks bad by today's standards, but you don't play old games to admire the graphics.

However, I agree that the 640x480 limitation really sucks (FS2 really benefits from higher resolutions, more than most other games, and I have gotten used to playing FS2 open in 2048x1536), but there isn't anything that can be done about that. I partially compensate for it by using the crazy 16x AA mode. It usually slows things down to a crawl but works fine in older stuff like this at such a low resolution. At any rate, all this doesn't really detract from the actual gameplay, which is still just as good as when I played it for the first time seven years ago.

The ship textures are outstanding, way better than the ones in FS2, but you have to use a registry hack to use them in their full sizes.

[Mefustae]

That and the Cut-scenes; I first played FS1 only a few months ago, that was after about a Year or so of FS2, and while i must concede that the overall Graphics in terms of Background Nebulae in FS1 are, in essence, nicely coloured blobs, everything else looked as good as I thought it would be.

But it was the Cut-scenes that really floored me. In FS2, the opening Cinematic just doesn't do anything for me, the Orion is blocky, Lucy's okay, but not great, and those damn Medusas! The opening FS1 Cinematic I just plain love; the slow pullback out of the flaming engine, the cockpitt of the Apollo, and Riviera Station itself, it all just looks amazingly better than anything FS2 had to offer Cinematically...well, save the Supernova of course ...

And I agree with the FSPort, good as it is, just missing the same feel that FS1 put forth. I actually played the Port before i played Retail FS1, and while I stopped playing the Port halfway through, i just couldn't put the Joystick down during the real FS1 (that's not to say the Port is a lacklustre experience, it just doesn't have the same feel).

...and that, ladies and gentlemen, is my Three Cents, i'd like my change now please ...

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Pnakotus
...why people play retail FS2 when SCP is right there! ...

Stabilty and reliability.

[General Freak]

And proper support for TNT2 cards!

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by TopAce


Stabilty and reliability.

And low-end computers.

[TopAce]

I don't think it is a problem nowadays.

[karajorma]

Hey everybody with low end PCs. TopAce is offering to pay for you to upgrade to a FS2_Open capable PC.

Form an orderly queue

[Nuclear1]

I'm already in line...