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Offline Kazan

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BlackDove: considering to get out of the "line of danger" you would have to walk SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES: pretty damn hard

some on blackdove let's see you travel several hundred miles on foot in a day... come on let's see it!


Can't be done you say? So what - you said you actually knew it was coming before it wrecked the place [like the rest of us] you should have been able to walk 300 miles in a day..


In Short: you need to GET ****ING REAL
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No, but they could have walked to a designated shelter.  I'm still keenly aware that those shelters were then subsequently all but abandoned and those inside were, in many cases, worse off than those outside.  However, as designated evac points, being in those shelters should rightfully have entitled survivors to first evacuation, as they, by going to the shelters, were placing their lives in the care of "government" before the storm hit.

Subsequently, the handling of the evacuees in the Superdome after the storm is the biggest gripe I've got against the rescue and recovery efforts thus far.  In preperation, there wasn't much else the shelter could have had done to prevent the conditions inside; it was understood that the loss of power and air-conditioning, as well as potable water and toilet facilities, would occur during the hurricane and wouldn't have been restored.  People taking shelter there were told to bring supplies for an extended stay as well, which (in theory) would have prevented mass-starvation.  It's the fact that they were left there practically unattended for almost a week after the storm that was poorly handled.
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The shelters were already all filled over-capacity.
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Those shelters were nowhere close to capacity during the storm.  The Superdome can hold 60k+, it had 10-15k in it while it was being used as a shelter from the weather.  It's only after the storm passed that the numbers there exploded.  Had those people been at the shelters when they were supposed to, the magnitude of the problem would have been more apparent.
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That magnitude of the potential problem was entirely apparently before the storm hit

years before the storm hit
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That magnitude of the potential problem was entirely apparently before the storm hit

years before the storm hit


I'm refering strictly to the number of people still trapped within the city.  If you're going to argue with everything no matter what context it was stated in, then you're going to wind up on quite a few ignore lists very soon.

EDIT: realized I was over the page break by default.
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Originally posted by Kazan
BlackDove: considering to get out of the "line of danger" you would have to walk SEVERAL HUNDRED MILES: pretty damn hard

some on blackdove let's see you travel several hundred miles on foot in a day... come on let's see it!


Can't be done you say? So what - you said you actually knew it was coming before it wrecked the place [like the rest of us] you should have been able to walk 300 miles in a day..


In Short: you need to GET ****ING REAL


I'd at least try.

Get to high ground. Do anything. Take a bus out of town. Hell, even go to a shelter if you can't do anything about mobility.

I bet most people were just simply "hoping for the best" or didn't even care.

They failed.

 

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I'd at least try.
 


and get killed by being caught OUT IN THE OPEN during the storm

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Get to high ground. Do anything.


"high ground" can be a bad thing in a hurricane too [exposed]

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Take a bus out of town.



WHAT BUSSES OUT OF TOWN

Are you incapable of understanding my previous point about COULDN'T AFFORD TO EVACUATE and THE GAS STATIONS RAN OUT OF GAS


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Hell, even go to a shelter if you can't do anything about mobility.


Shelters WITHOUT ROOM FOR MORE PEOPLE


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I bet most people were just simply "hoping for the best" or didn't even care.

They failed.


Yeah so you can sit fine and safe like a pompus ass in your own ****ing home and condemn them because they were victims of circumstance

HOW ****ING KIND OF YOU


Where were you in the Flood 1993?  I was 10 - I HELPED FILL SANDBAGS NONE-THE-LESS [helped that I live in Iowa]

Where are you now? ATTACKING PEOPLE WHO WERE VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCE

What am I doing now? Defending these people from the abuse of pompusses *******s and donating to the red cross since I cannot physically help


You are disgusting - you are no better than those people who go out and steal non-essential items and shoot at helicopters

How about we all join in on blaming the victims
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How about you get off the insane wagon and try to make some sense?

Where I was in 1993... in the midst of a warzone. That kind of turmoil and death you will never see for as long as you live. You're going to talk to me about some flood when you were a kid? Boo hoo. Sandbags sound just awful. I was using sandbags too. Trying to cover my head in a basement from an air raid.

As far as "victims of circumstance" goes - I don't build my house at the epicentre of natural disasters. I've moved more than 30 times in my lifetime, and the place where I live now, was mostly chosen because of its climate and calmness

I'm no better than people who steal non-essential items and shoot at helicopters? Where is the connection between comparing me with them? That desperate to make your point? It shows.

Too bad you don't have a point. Anyone smart enough would find a way to get the hell out of there, or yet better, not be there in the first place.

They got stomped on by nature. Too bad. There were plenty of warnings. This isn't like the situation in Asia 9 months ago. Those people were living on islands, and the destruction just came out of nowhere and killed everyone. Those are the people I feel sorry for.

I agree that people in NO should get all the help they can, and the government should provide it as fast as possible.

But pity? No.
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Offline Kazan

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You are inhuman - go to hell you're on my ignore list
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Nobody cares.

 

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You are inhuman - go to hell you're on my ignore list


You know Kazan I'm starting to wonder if this is what you see when you log onto HLP. :p



BTW You have no idea how hard it was to find that many posts in a row that didn't have a moderator or admin in them to ruin the joke :)
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Offline WMCoolmon

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So that's what the ignore list does.
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Offline Kazan

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there are two users on my ignore list.. blackdove is a moderator somewhere so i couldn't ignore him.. so i just skip his posts from now on
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Yeah, god forbid you might read something that opposes your views.

Keep scrollin.

 

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You know Kazan I'm starting to wonder if this is what you see when you log onto HLP. :p


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I tried. But all the threads I looked at with you and Kazan going at it had a comment by a moderator or admin ruining the joke :)
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You can't ignore an admin? Now there's a kick in the democratic balls... ;)
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Kajorama - is that YOUR ignore list???? :D
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Kajorama - is that YOUR ignore list???? :D


For the minute or so it took me to make the picture yep :)
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