[Styxx]

I wish we had a Nazi party here...

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Styxx
I wish we had a Nazi party here...

Nip down to Argentina - they collected them in the 40's.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Styxx
I wish we had a Nazi party here...

What for? Target practice?

[vyper]

Originally posted by aldo_14


We also had refugees intimidated, assaulted and eventually murdered in Sighthill.  Don't think it's a  one-sided situation.  Segreagation, not immigration, is what breeds extremism.  The question is whether it is the asian community, or the white community that willfully segregates itself.

Fair enough to sitehill, in my example I was referring to Pollokshields.

Tbh, I would say it's the muslim community. The Sikhs, Hindus, Chinese, etc have had far less problems integrating and assimilating British culture.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Don't know if any of you have delved into Combat 18's site far enough to find RedWatch, but this is basically a list and set of photos of people who they believe to be Commies, and want beaten up.

And two of my mates are on it.

[SadisticSid]

At least the European election results have shown that euroscepticism is at an all time high. When Blair puts forth this referendum on the European Constitution he's going to get raped again.

The Tories have done so badly (well, at least in MEP loss terms) because they've been sitting on the fence, I think, to avoid splitting the Party down the middle again like in the days of IDS. But now that a lot of Europhile Tories are now in the dole queue thanks to UKIP, there may be an opportunity to toss out the current policy of affiliation with the EPP and do like UKIP has. I really do hope Howard takes it.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Originally posted by SadisticSid
there may be an opportunity to toss out the current policy of affiliation with the EPP and do like UKIP has. I really do hope Howard takes it.

that would particularly stupid to do as the UKIP says. But then again the UKIP are nothing but a bunch of europhobe bigots, so expect no smarts there.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80


that would particularly stupid to do as the UKIP says. But then again the UKIP are nothing but a bunch of europhobe bigots, so expect no smarts there.

Sad but true. Being in the EU may cause problems but it's nothing compared to the job losses we'd face if European and British goods had an import tax on them again.

[kode]

Originally posted by SadisticSid
At least the European election results have shown that euroscepticism is at an all time high. When Blair puts forth this referendum on the European Constitution he's going to get raped again.
 

yes, yes it has. the percentage of people that actually voted was also generally low. also I voted blank. the "june list", which is a new party that is somewhat of critics to this deal that the eu is going to rule europe without much being able to be decided on locally, reaped 14.5% of the votes and got 3 seats. every other party but one lost a seat too...

[Ghostavo]

How high was the blank/didn't vote percentage (average) throught europe?

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Originally posted by Ghostavo
How high was the blank/didn't vote percentage (average) throught europe?

on average only about 40% of all EU citizens with the right to vote did their civic duty.

they'd better not complain about the EU in the next few years.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Ghostavo
How high was the blank/didn't vote percentage (average) throught europe?

Average was 35%-40% IIRC... Cyprus held highest with 70-80%, Eastern Europe and newer member states couldn't give a damn with 20-27%.

(This is the percentage that DID vote.)

Seriously, Europe is getting ****ed every which way by the liberal democracy pretentious sons of *****es. A tad extremism is quite needed right now to push it back.

I don't worry too much, cuz 99% of all extremism id pushed back as things settle down again. It's a temporary neccesity in the modern world.

[Gank]

Yeah, a bit of extremism isnt anything to worry about, sorted Europe right out 60 years ago

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Originally posted by Tiara
Seriously, Europe is getting ****ed every which way by the liberal democracy pretentious sons of *****es. A tad extremism is quite needed right now to push it back.

that's rather nonsensicle.

extremism is never good, that's why we call it extremism and not normalism for example.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Gank
Yeah, a bit of extremism isnt anything to worry about, sorted Europe right out 60 years ago

Jets, nukes, nuclear power, the UN, America coming out of isolation, the death of open racism, the rise of sexual equality, the death of millions of Jews.

All those good things came out of WW2.

Without WW2 we'd probably be in a state on constant pseudo-war with everyone.

[Flipside]

Extremeists serve to remind the human race that too much of anything is a bad thing...even liberalism, and yes, I do believe you can have an extremist liberal.

[an0n]

All liberalism is extreme.

[vyper]

*giggles at Tiara*

Oh how I hope this comes. (is not on her side folks btw)

[Black Wolf]

OK. I haven't read an awful lot of the BNP website, but the general sense I get is that they're a party committed to a basic policy of putting Britain first, at the expense of everyone else. Now, just by reading their Policies page, I can see they don;t have a full grasp on what they're really talking about, but I do see similarities to a party called One Nation that got a few seats here a few years back.

Simple fact was that One Nation was run by a moron (In response to the economic issues of the time and national debt, she suggested Australia print more money...). But their policies were very similar. They were pretty much anti immigration, anti asian, very backwards etc. And the rest of the parties did a similar thing as seems to have been done to the BNP - worked together against them to ensure they didn't get any kind of power.

But the problem with this strategy is that it tends to lead to public focus being on the stupidities at the head of the party rather than what could well be a very important message beneath it. I'd be intrigued to find out if this:

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

is true. If so, then that is a problem, and a very serious one. The second a countries core, descendent people become a numerical minority, then the power in that country is no longer in the hands of its ancestral people. This will inevitably lead to changes at a governmental level, and you really have to ask yourself if that's something that'd be good for your country.

Meh. Not really my place to talk about the domestic issues of the british government. Nor am I advocating voting for the BNP - they sound like a bunch of arseholes, who shouldn't be running a footrace. But the fact is, that behind a lot of the stupidity, there often is a valid message that should be shown to the public.[/color]

[aldo_14]

It's only a problem if you view 'British' as 'white'.   I know plenty of asians (i.e. as both as in the Pacific and India/Pakistan sense, etc) who are 'British' (or, more appropriately, Scottish) and perfectly well 'integrated' - understandable given that they are born in bred in the UK.  

If you want to equate nationality, or rather national culture, with a single religion or ethnic group, you're heading for trouble.  

NB(1): That is pretty much a bollocks statement.  By British, they probably mean 'foreigner hating white-pride Nazis who fight the ****'  (apologies for the language, but that's the kind of mindset these people have
EDIT; edited it out.  i'm not comfortable with writing any sort of racist epiphet, even if it's to illustrate the idiocy of these people
).

 I don;t think they class people who disagree with them as being British.

NB(2): The BNP also supports, in particular, a policy of forced repatriation for asians.  They're basically based on a policy of pseudo-nazist racism.