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Offline Nix

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Rent n Rip.  At least you're out 5 bucks at the most. 

 

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Not really. Spielberg was there to hold his hand every step of the way, and we all know the colossal difference between the two.
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Oh come on you guys. Stop taking Star Wars so seriously. It hasn't been serious since RotJ so get over it. Revenge of the Sith was suitably dark ending to a franchise which has lost all it's charm and credibility. On the other hand it was action packed and at least as much fun as any other film where everyone seems to get killed and/or have all their limbs chopped off. So accept it for what it is, buy the DVD, stop mourning the death of Star Wars and move on with your collective lives. So there :P
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It was already established that his burns were caused by falling into lava, though by how they butchered the other preestablished cannon that could have been ignored easily.
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I'm fairly sure that Lucas officially stated it somewhere, but I'm not willing to try to dig it up.

I remember reading it was a volcano somewhere, way before the prequels were being considered.

But IPs right; it's not meant to be taken that seriously or overanalysed (remember, you can't analyse without anal).  If you found it a reasonable diversion on a wet Sunday, then fine.  If not, don't buy it and stop bloody whinging.

 

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Why didn't they put a whole bunch of those little booger droids on the two death stars?

Good point actually? Even if you come up with some fanboi **** to explain them losing the blueprints for the Trade Federations combat droids they did have 20 years to come up with new ones so why on Earth were the empire so reliant on Stormtroopers with their inability to shoot straight?
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Why didn't they put a whole bunch of those little booger droids on the two death stars?

Good point actually? Even if you come up with some fanboi **** to explain them losing the blueprints for the Trade Federations combat droids they did have 20 years to come up with new ones so why on Earth were the empire so reliant on Stormtroopers with their inability to shoot straight?

The fanboi ****, i believe, is simply that the robots weren't very good.  And they were then replaced by clones, which were then replaced by people (because the cloning vats were destroyed), because people are in some ways easier to use and abuse than a machine.  Or cheaper.  Maybe it was just a galactic recession.

 

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Most people say the original Trilogy is better, but i think both trilogies are good, just in different ways. The Original trilogy has deep characters and originality, and a certain sense of deep meaning to the films. The prequel trilogy is a bit more shallow, but the special fx and amazing sense of scale (seeing the whole galaxy & crap) are just mind bending!
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I thought the reliance on special effects was actually detrimental to its quality as a movie.  Sure, it looked great from stills, but in motion it just lacked any sense of involvement.
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This was mentioned earlier, but it's always bugged me: during the huge space battle in the beginning, after Anakin crashes the spaceship on the planet (how the fugnuts did THAT survive), did, what, the enemy just go away? I know it was because "Grievous floated away so everything fell apart" but I mean, come on, they have an enemy assaulting the homeworld, but they can still spare enough gunships to tow things around, and people are still zipping around as if nothing is happening? No explosions in the sky, no nothing, they land and walk away, and then the bad guys magically disappear.

 

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I thought the reliance on special effects was actually detrimental to its quality as a movie. Sure, it looked great from stills, but in motion it just lacked any sense of involvement.

Yep. Especially where the whole-3D sets are concerned.

They tend to keep the camera at a distance from the actors purely so they can show off the expensive scenery - which is ****ing appauling from a directorial standpoint.
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I thought the reliance on special effects was actually detrimental to its quality as a movie. Sure, it looked great from stills, but in motion it just lacked any sense of involvement.
It looked somewhat cartoonish, I thought.  I think it'll age very badly, far more than the original trilogy will/has.

 

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The main bit about special effects that bothered me is that, in the OT, those ships were actually real.  There actually was a Falcon model; there actually was a physical surface of the Death Star.  And you could tell it; when watching those scenes, you thought that what you were looking at was a full-sized, honest-to-God spaceship.  And then there are things like Yoda; he's actually standing there, floppy ears and all.  The Ewok army (and no badmouthing them; Ewoks rawk ;)) was actually a bunch of little guys in furry suits; Jabba was some unlucky SOB in a really disgusting costume.  Fast-forward to TPM, and take a look at something like the Naboo fighters or royal transport.  They stick out like a sore thumb; they're just a flashy computer trick.  The same thing goes for all of the aliens; they look like something you should be seeing on a beer commercial, not a Star Wars film.  That suspension of disbelief is utterly shattered, and you realize that you're just watching a movie, instead of feeling like you've been transported to a very distant, very real galaxy.  Even above the terrible writing/acting, that's what killed the new trilogy for me.  You can say what you want about how you think the OT's acting was just as bad (which I'll never buy), but you can't deny the special effects.  I didn't want to watch a videogame of Star Wars; I wanted to watch the real thing, damn it.  What I find to be funniest of all is that a volunteer bunch of coders, modelers, and artists, using a 5-year-old game engine, can still generate effects that blow Lucas's out of the water.  Kudos to you guys, but shame on Lucas.

 
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  What I find to be funniest of all is that a volunteer bunch of coders, modelers, and artists, using a 5-year-old game engine, can still generate effects that blow Lucas's out of the water. 

Hmm, dont know about that my friend :D

 

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Heh, well, I've said it before and I'll say it again, there was no acting in the prequels to match Lukes final face-off with his father, Anakins battle with the dark side was little more than a token resistance compared to Luke, and when he turned for a moment, you could be easily convinced that not Vader, Windu or anyone could have stopped him.

I agree that the combat from the original series was better, at least in the ROTJ, more using the sabre as a weapon, less using it as a Nightclub dance-stick. And even the space combat had things called 'characters' whose progress you could follow, and the battle wasn't so frantic that you couldn't actually tell how it was going or, indeed, who was shooting at whom. Maybe not as realistic or chaotic as a real battle, but it's a story (or, at least, was supposed to be). Not to mention the fact that the Battle of Endor was carried through stupendously using 4 different sets of characters in different locations (Lando, Han etc, Luke, Admiral Ackbar), remember, 50% of those characters weren't even around in the first film. That's the importance of putting weight on the characters and plot, instead of the special effects.

That was the thing about TOS, things felt 'real' the Falcon was beaten up and grimy, even the X-wings had much from the exhaust ports on them etc, whereas everything seemed too shiny in the prequels. At the end of the day, it felt like I was watching 3 rolling promos for Industrial Light and Magic :( In fact, I was almost half-expecting Buzz Lightyear to show up at some point :/
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That was the thing about TOS, things felt 'real' the Falcon was beaten up and grimy, even the X-wings had much from the exhaust ports on them etc, whereas everything seemed too shiny in the prequels. At the end of the day, it felt like I was watching 3 rolling promos for Industrial Light and Magic :( In fact, I was almost half-expecting Buzz Lightyear to show up at some point :/
Actually, that was the main thing ROTS had going for it over TPM and AOTC... they had (computer-generated) grime on the (computer-generated) ships. Still far inferior to real grime on real models, but it was certainly better than the previous 2 movies in that regard.
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Heh, I didn't even notice to be honest, I just wondered why they had to use an entire cartoon series to build up General Grievous for this film when, with the original films, they had to do all the merchandising and background afterwards. I'm sure that's some kind of ambiguous comment on how strong the original characters were, and how much external support the new characters needed...

 

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Even then, for some reason Lucas felt it was necessary to give Grievous the wheezing cough.

How different the reaction to Darth Vader would've been if he'd keeled over coughing and wheezing just seconds after stepping through the door of the Tantive IV...
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Lucas felt it was necessary to give Grievous the wheezing cough.

Oh yes the famous cough. Silly, ill conceived, unfunny, and distracting all at the same. It works on so many levels. Genius!
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Why didn't they put a whole bunch of those little booger droids on the two death stars?

Good point actually? Even if you come up with some fanboi **** to explain them losing the blueprints for the Trade Federations combat droids they did have 20 years to come up with new ones so why on Earth were the empire so reliant on Stormtroopers with their inability to shoot straight?

well the Kaminos in the 2nd episode did say clones are superiour to droids.
on the subject, the guy who placed the order (Jedi master,forgot his name) who was he ?

 

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Not too sure of the name, I seem to recall that he was a Jedi that had vanished a few years before hand, though I've also heard it suggested that the name was Count Dooku's original name.