[Kazan]

yeah against the laws of physics when my SD replay and another person, who has an HD replay and agrees with you that a card was deserved said pablo touched it

shouldn't have been a red card. period.  yellow - ok whatever, but not a red
second yellow against Pope - total BS - contact was shin guard to shin guard, studs on the cleats down and away from the player, solid ball contact

should have been a USA win, hands down

[Black Wolf]

should have been a USA win, hands down

Oh well, you win some, you lose some. It's how you play the game that matters, no?

[Ghostavo]

Since someone in this thread seems to be grouchy now, I'll just spread whatever's left of my joy around...

WE WON!!

[Night Hammer]

should have been a USA win, hands down

How do you figure?

Our attacks on goal were a joke at best, were lucky that defender(#2 cant remember his name) hit that ball with some wicked spin and the Italians played pisspoor in the 2nd half or else we'd have another L in our record

the Italians were shorthanded for a good while during the game and I saw nothing from us to try to take advantage of that.

[neoterran]

wow, not sure what game you were watching but I saw tremendous heart from the USA team, they finally played like a world class club for the first time. lets not forget that they are playing a much better (on paper) team, and with only 9 men on a side. I think they did very well and had some good opportunities, but the offside they had and the fact they were tired did them in as well.

[Night Hammer]

you misunderstood, i never said they didnt play without heart, but there runs on the goal were nothing to be worried about by the Italian defense

[karajorma]

Oh and just in case you missed it here's Christian Zaccardo putting one in the net in the USA vs Italy game. Shame it was his own net but you can't have everything can you Zaccardo?

BTW I can't understand most of the commentary but I'm pretty sure that palermo(sp) means idiot same as it does in Portuguese so keep an ear out for the commentators calling him one

[Ghostavo]

Palermo is the name of an Italian city

Palerma is what you are looking for, but I don't think the word exists as it is in Italian.

[aldo_14]

wow, not sure what game you were watching but I saw tremendous heart from the USA team, they finally played like a world class club for the first time. lets not forget that they are playing a much better (on paper) team, and with only 9 men on a side. I think they did very well and had some good opportunities, but the offside they had and the fact they were tired did them in as well.

Tremendous effort and pressing, absolutely.  But I think it's fair to say they lacked just a wee bit of creativity  that could have got them 2-1 up when they had a man extra (for example), and I'm not sure exactly how many shots on target they had.

Offside was definately, er, offside, though, because McBride (I believe) clearly blocked Buffons view of the shot.  It's not too dissimilar to Gattusos' 'goal', in that sense (the offside decision affecting the keeper).

[Shade]

What is going on with Brazil? They're playing like a third rate team... the aussies are so going to win this (or atleast get a draw) if something doesn't change. And very good effort by them, constantly pressing the person with the ball, and quite effective in bringing the ball forward on the offense. Hope they win, would be cool

[Edit] Guess they listened. Much more spirit over the brazilian play after halftime, and a very nice 1-0 goal.

[Don-DiZzLe]

Yeah baby go Brasil!!!! 2-0

[aldo_14]

Bad luck to the Ozzies, though, they played well.  Brazil still have to find their top gear; I've seen them play far better in the qualifiers, where they were simply outstanding.

[aldo_14]

Man, the French truly are screwed.  I bet they're kicking themselves for not taking Guily, too.

[Shade]

They're lucky as hell to be in that group. Any other and they'd be out for sure with the play (well, lack of play) they've shown. And even in group G they may very well still not make it.

[aldo_14]

Of course, if Togo win, then it's entirely open.

If Togo even play, that is.

[karajorma]

Was anyone else in danger of breaking ribs from laughing when Korea scored?

I've always said that its the height of stupidity to defend a 1-0 lead for half a game and yet again my point has been proved. They had warnings from the Koreans mere moments before the goal went in and underestimating a team which reached the semi-finals in the previous Cup doesn't exactly put me in a sympathetic mood towards them.

[aldo_14]

I'm just amazed at Advocaat doing something competently.

[neoterran]

Err - hold on... this should have been 2 - 1, France win. Yet more piss poor ref action

[karajorma]

No idea why they haven't started using something more advanced than the mk1 eyeball to determine whether the ball has crossed the line or not.

[aldo_14]

Am I the only one who thinks Otto Pfister looks like a dirty old man sitting there with his shirt half-off?