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Offline CP5670

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FS2 Capital Ship Database
I thought some of you mission designers might find this useful, if you haven't already seen it on FREDZone.  

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I think there are a few small errors, which I am in the process of correcting. I will also put in the ships from the newly validated FZ missions shortly.  

Sorry if the file takes some time to load; it is only 45.428kb in size, but the @Home servers seem to be going kind of slow these days.

[This message has been edited by CP5670 (edited 12-27-2001).]

 

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I can't wait to see the updated list, CP!  

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Cool. I thought Sandwich had already made one of these, but if he hasn't... then cool job, dude. My congrats  
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Regarding the GTD Delacroix, that's probably an Hecate destroyer as both Delacroix and Aquitaine were (are?) both nobel French house (I think).

Even if thats not correct Delacroix and Aquitaine are related in some fashion, which would mean its logical that they are both of the same class.

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Originally posted by Tar-Palantir:
Regarding the GTD Delacroix, that's probably an Hecate destroyer as both Delacroix and Aquitaine were (are?) both nobel French house (I think).

Even if thats not correct Delacroix and Aquitaine are related in some fashion, which would mean its logical that they are both of the same class.


Aquitaine is a region, famous mainly because of big battles during WW2 (or maybe WW1, not sure).
For delacroix, dunno, but it's clearly a french name.
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Yeah, there are quite a few controversial things in here; the Delacroix is only mentioned once in the sm1-07 (Slaying Ravana) briefing, so I have no idea what ship class it belongs to. How about everyone here post what class they think would work the best (Orion or Hecate), and I'll go with the majority.

 

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Delacroix = Hecate, no question.  
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Offline Setekh

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Really? No question, eh?  

Hey, the Delacroix was destroyed by the Ravana, am I right? Or am I wrong, this is IIRC  
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Offline Su-tehp

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Ah, a question from my Ancient Egyptian-named brother/comrade  

CP probably knows better than I do, but yeah, I do remember the Delacroix being mentioned in the briefing of the mission where you have to fly a bomber to destroy the Ravana. If I remember correctly, the briefing said that the GTD Delacroix (along with several other GTVA capital ships) was destroyed. This is why we're having a debate about whether the Delacroix was Orion-class or Hecate-class; this briefing is the only mention of this ship.

But, to answer your question, Setekh, yeah, I think you're right that the Ravana killed the Delacroix.

My instincts/intuition/gut feeling/sour stomach (I ate too much pepperoni pizza at dinnertime) all tell me that the Delacroix was a Hecate-class ship. Of course, guessing an unseen cap ship's particular class on the basis of my tummy feeling funny can't exactly be called scientific evidence...  

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Well I'm agreeing with Hecate.

1) Delacroix just sounds like it would belong to a Hecate (as Aquitaine does). Maybe the two ships were completed at the same time (or thereabouts) at the ship yards and the one dude picked their names.

2) Going up against a Ravana wouldn't it be logical (though Command is rarely logical  ) to send a new Hecate rather than an old Orion.

3) Besides, was the GTVA still using Orions at the time. At the beginning of the game your squad is transfered from an Orion to a Hecate.

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Offline CP5670

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Sounds like most people want the Hecate.     I will change that in the next version, then.    


Argh, just changed that thing, and Notepad gives me the "Not enough memory to complete operation" message on the last letter.  Guess I need to go into Wordpad...

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Originally posted by joek:
3) Besides, was the GTVA still using Orions at the time. At the beginning of the game your squad is transfered from an Orion to a Hecate.

Joe.


It's true that the 53rd Hammerheads (your first squadron in playing FS2) was transferred onto the Aquitaine at the start of FS2. However, I don't think necessarily think they were transferred from the Bastion (which IS an Orion, like joe said). The feeling I got was that the Bastion had been mothballed/retired sometime after the First Great War. Of course, the Bastion WAS part of the 4th Fleet, which is based in Vega. The first command briefing in FS2, which gives the rough history of the 53rd, even says "since then, we've called Vega our home."

I don't remember the exact text of the briefing, but the feeling I got was that after the Bastion was retired, the 53rd was transferred to another destroyer(which could have been either Orion OR Hecate, there's no way to tell) in the 4th Fleet and remained in Vega until the start of FS2, when the 53rd was transferred to the Aquitaine, which is the flagship of the 3rd Fleet in Capella.

To sum up, the destroyer that the 53rd transferred from could have been either Orion or Hecate and it was PROBABLY NOT the Bastion.

That's my take on it, anyway...  

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Offline Zeronet

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Hecates are used primarly as Flagships with Orions as plain Destroyers.
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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by joek:
2) Going up against a Ravana wouldn't it be logical (though Command is rarely logical   ) to send a new Hecate rather than an old Orion.

I have to agree here, but there's a converse point: if it's a new ship, wouldn't Command have wanted to preserve it, and pull it out before it got destroyed? Then again, perhaps the Delacroix had a dumb-ass Captain like the Colossus did, and refused to jump out. Idiot!  
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Offline Setekh

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But, to answer your question, Setekh, yeah, I think you're right that the Ravana killed the Delacroix.

Why, thank you my Ancient Egyptian-named brother/comrade.  

I thought so. I remembered it from the (command?) briefing before Slaying Ravana.  
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Delacroix is an Hecate. As to being destroyed by the Ravana, maybe it jump in at the wrong location: in front of the main guns? That would be amusing.

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Originally posted by Tar-Palantir:
Delacroix is an Hecate. As to being destroyed by the Ravana, maybe it jump in at the wrong location: in front of the main guns? That would be amusing.


Yeah, like the nav officer was the same guy from Spaceballs: "I said shoot across her nose, not up it!"  

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Offline Setekh

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Yeah, like the nav officer was the same guy from Spaceballs: "I said shoot across her nose, not up it!"  

   
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Lol - how did I miss this topic until now? Oh, well...  

Setekh is right, you're just doing double work. :-/ Here's a direct link to the Complete FS2 Ship List: http://www.geocities.com/sandvich/fs2/notes/fs2_ship_list.html

CP, maybe we should join forces or something...  

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