[Dr.Zer0]

 

Originally posted by aldo_14:
i wonder if you play about with the lighting effects to get a dappled effect on the ships.... you'd probably need new sounds as well, though.

New sounds! are you crazy!!  
Then the mod would be over 100 mb!

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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Dr.Zer0:
New sounds! are you crazy!!  
Then the mod would be over 100 mb!

dude, making a submarine mod, it's a TC. You do it at 100%, or not at all, coz otherwise itwill be bad.

[jonskowitz]

I don't think adding new FX sound files will push the size of the file up too much.  It's voice files that really add up fast (they're longer).

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[Setekh]

Mmmm, sounds would be cool. But where are you going to get them? Artbeats or something? (The stuff there is ridiculously expensive...)

[aldo_14]

I'm just idly speculating, but you'd prob need;

6-10 new smaller fighter equivalent subs
4-10 large subs & bases
New torpedos, minigun effect pofs and possibly new-look lasers
New sounds for engines & weapons
(maybe from other games)
Altered trails, particles and maybe thruster animations for submarine effects.
Ocean floor model/s.
New nebula files (flythrough)

Maybe (not really needed)
New lighting effects for ambient light (dappled)
HUD ('sonar')
cahnge the mainhall to look underwater  

Should keep it FS2 set, though, have some missions around a sunken Hecate or Typhon, etc

[Nico]

 

Originally posted by aldo_14:
I'm just idly speculating, but you'd prob need;

6-10 new smaller fighter equivalent subs
4-10 large subs & bases
New torpedos, minigun effect pofs and possibly new-look lasers
New sounds for engines & weapons
(maybe from other games)
Altered trails, particles and maybe thruster animations for submarine effects.
Ocean floor model/s.
New nebula files (flythrough)

Maybe (not really needed)
New lighting effects for ambient light (dappled)
HUD ('sonar')
cahnge the mainhall to look underwater  

Should keep it FS2 set, though, have some missions around a sunken Hecate or Typhon, etc

a submarine war in he fs2 universe? I doubt vasudan have subs, shivans don't, the NTF probably didn't bother, and, well...
plus hecates or typhon don't usually crash in seas lol (mmh, russian typhoons does tho   )

[NeoHunter]

I don't think you can fire lasers underwater, can you? In air or space, sure. In water? Hard to imagine.

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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by NeoHunter:
I don't think you can fire lasers underwater, can you? In air or space, sure. In water? Hard to imagine.

yes you can, for exemple the US army serached for a very powerful laser that would turn the water into gas in a fraction of secs, allowing bullets to go though this "hole in the water". The laser isn't actually the weapon, but at least, that means it was supposed to work  
efficient submarine weaponary in the future is rather sonic based weapons I think, anyway ( think alien weapons in Xcom Terror from the deep).

[aldo_14]

 

Originally posted by venom2506:
a submarine war in he fs2 universe? I doubt vasudan have subs, shivans don't, the NTF probably didn't bother, and, well...
plus hecates or typhon don't usually crash in seas lol (mmh, russian typhoons does tho   )

A secret war between black ops teams from the Vasudans & Terrans on/around an aquatic research base?  Not all battles are fought in space....

[Red5]

the sea quest has lasers  

[IceFire]

And they had some cool Fighter Subs.  Take a few lessons from the designs on that show.

[CODEDOG ND]

hehehe I just want to kill a Los Angeles class muhahhahahahaha DIE DIE DIE!!!!

[Unidan]

 

Originally posted by CODEDOG ND:
hehehe I just want to kill a Los Angeles class muhahhahahahaha DIE DIE DIE!!!!

And you thought nintendo was high on crack.

[Setekh]

I'd be content to believe that FS2 ships all functioned underwater. Maybe give them slightly different thruster glows (distorted ones?) to accentuate the fact that some hardware had to be adapted and I think it should be fine. Weapons should probably have a decent rethink, though.  

[aldo_14]

Well, Fs ships are vacumn sealed and have life support....

I'd replace thuster glows & flames with rotating sub-objetcs & scaled trails, and redo the (semi-transparent) thruster.ani to look like the beam off of a searchlight, for added atmosphere.

[Nico]

 

Originally posted by aldo_14:
Well, Fs ships are vacumn sealed and have life support....

I'd replace thuster glows & flames with rotating sub-objetcs & scaled trails, and redo the (semi-transparent) thruster.ani to look like the beam off of a searchlight, for added atmosphere.

are you crazy? ut the space shuttle in water to see what happens... basically, it's designed to resist to a pression from inside to outside ( pressurized air inside, air or vacuuml outside ). so put it it deep water: "crunch".
ok, let's forget about that. Put your sapce shuttle in the water. Now, gentlemen, start your engines!
What? it doesn't work? comne, it's not because there's hundered of litres of water coming right into the engine they shouldn't star! Oh, it does? sorry sorry sorry
oh, and i'd like to see how an ursa would handle under water  . Aerodynmics not important in space, but hydraudynamics, it's another mater  
Plus, in fact the most important: I want to pilot submarines, not submarine herc2!!!

[^Graff]

Venom, the FS2 underwater ships probably had some modifications done to them to get them to work.  Maybe a turbine instead of fusion drive.  And they can withstand the pressure of water, since anything that can take a direct hit from a 14 kt bomb and keep flying should have no problem with water pressure.
And some of the ships were aerodynamic.  Not the ursa, but definately the pegasus.

[Nico]

 

Originally posted by ^Graff:
Venom, the FS2 underwater ships probably had some modifications done to them to get them to work.  Maybe a turbine instead of fusion drive.  And they can withstand the pressure of water, since anything that can take a direct hit from a 14 kt bomb and keep flying should have no problem with water pressure.
And some of the ships were aerodynamic.  Not the ursa, but definately the pegasus.

put a small bomb outside of one of those US submarines. it will do crap. put it inside...
And do you really think they would use a spaceship as submarine?
If people want to do that, it's just a cheap way to make a false campaign.
My point.

[Dr.Zer0]

 

Originally posted by ^Graff:
Venom, the FS2 underwater ships probably had some modifications done to them to get them to work.  Maybe a turbine instead of fusion drive.  And they can withstand the pressure of water, since anything that can take a direct hit from a 14 kt bomb and keep flying should have no problem with water pressure.
And some of the ships were aerodynamic.  Not the ursa, but definately the pegasus.

Rember, this is not based off of FS/2, anyway about those fishies idea, Im thinkingov making asteroides that you cant collide into and make them look like little floating fishies  

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[NeoHunter]

If you are going to make some huge submarines and have submarine battles, make sure they have something like Sea Quest: Interceptors. Or else submarine warfare will start and end real fast.

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