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Offline TrashMan

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Fighter complements???
What are the fighter complements os some FS destroyers?

the Orion should have 120 fighters (10 squadrons), but some say it has less.

The Typhon and the Hatsheput are also unknown.

Given the opposite role of hte terran and vasudan destroyers (Hecate more similar to Typhon, Orion to Hatsephut9, I'd wager that their fightercapacity is similar.

So I'd estimate 144 for Typhon, 120 for Hatsephut
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I'm pretty sure the Orion and Typhon have their fighter compliments spelled out in the FS2 tech descriptions, and there is no info to say otherwise.

 

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doesn't the typhon have 30 wings of fighters?
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Offline Mars

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30 X 12 = 360  that's half the compliment of the Colossus :eek2: so I don't know... then again, the Vasudans used Anubis fighters during the T-V War, so I guess they would need a lot... sounds high though... and is distinctly quasi-canon

 

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Do we actually know the size of squadrons in the FS universe in the first place? There's really no standard for it in the real world, it varies with country and aircraft type. Same thing goes for fighter wings, btw, that can be anything depending on who you ask - In Tie Fighter for example, I seem to recall a fighter wing being 60 fighters.

I'm fine with canon squadron numbers as they're stated in the techroom and command briefings, but unless clearly stated somewhere, speculation on actual fighter complement should be avoided except in the appropriate sections (such as veteran comments).
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Offline Freespace Freak

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FS2 tech descriptions say the Orion carries more than two dozen wings.  If we are to assume there are 4 fighters per wing then that makes 98, make that about 100 to satisfy the "over" part.  The Hecate is much more cavernous, housing more than 150.  The Typhon holds 30 wings, which gives it 120 fighters.  The Colossus houses 60 wings which makes 240 fighter or bombers, and there's nothing on the Hatshepsut, but it can be assumed that it would house somewhere around 120-150 fighters.

 

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Also, we know wing size is changeable; you can have as few as one or as many as six fighters in a wing, so even with a number of wings, we don't know how many each wing includes. It stands to reason that a heavy bomber unit might include fewer fightercraft per wing then a space superiority unit, or that other different unit types might have different wing sizes from those.

The Colossus CB ani gives four fightercraft per wing and three wings per squadron as a standard size, but I'm leery of accepting that. Operational realities would likely dictate differently.
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Offline Mars

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In the Colossus cutscene it breaks it down, four fighters per wing, three wings per squadron, watch it closely and you'll see what I'm talking about

 

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What are the fighter complements os some FS destroyers?



Everyone says the Perseus handles well in Fighter review monthly  :nervous:



Did the fighter compliment vary from ship to ship, IE would a command ship (Aquitaine) have more or less than a standard Destroyer?
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Well we know that the Bastion has ten squadrons even though, when you do the math you end up with 8.5 squadrons, so maybe, or maybe we don't know. I would consider all extrapolations on the wing / squad numbers from the Collie cutscene to be quasi-canon, but still non-canon.

 

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In the Colossus cutscene it breaks it down, four fighters per wing, three wings per squadron, watch it closely and you'll see what I'm talking about
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Edit: Anyone got a hi-res version so we can see what that text is next to the depiction of a wing size?

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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One squad = 3 wings, Canon itself. Ok that is irrefutable .  :D
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Edit: Anyone got a hi-res version so we can see what that text is next to the depiction of a wing size?

The only thing I can read from your pic is that the first line says "Math is cool."

Also, as far as bombers taking up more "space," we can assume, based on the Aquitaine flight deck, that the destroyers have individual docking bays for their small craft (fighters and bombers), so even though a Perseus is much smaller than an Ursa, they'd both use the same docking slip, so the fighter compliment is unchanged regardless of the type of craft housed.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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I zoomed in to 6X in MS Paint to read the stats in the Colly pic. :)
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I zoomed in to 6X in MS Paint to read the stats in the Colly pic. :)

So, what does it say?

 

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One squad = 3 wings, One wing = 4 ships. Total ships 240. In fact i can make that out from the above posting.
The paragraph appears to random babble..... :)
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Oh, except for the beginning that says "Math is cool."  I thought the random babble is actually readable this time.

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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If anyone can squeeze a higher-resolution pic out of somewhere some of it might be legible  :nervous:

For now though we got some :v: figures on squads that verifies 12 fighters per squad, But is a Squad a squad"ron" ?
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Its gibberish. They knew that no one would be able to read it and filled it with nonsense. Its been done before, though exactly where I cannot recall.



Suffice to say, theres nothing that can be assertained from the small text. Except that math is cool.
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But is a Squad a squad"ron" ?

Yes.  A squad is short for squadron, whether it is a squadron of capital ships, fighters or bombers, or combat ground troops.