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Offline Nuke

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Re: My cable company found me....
are you kidding, anyone on the internet can track anything youre doing. its just a matter of not drawing any unneccisary attention.
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: My cable company found me....
are you kidding, anyone on the internet can track anything youre doing. its just a matter of not drawing any unneccisary attention.


Untrue.

Torpark offers anonymity, though at the price of making the connection sloow. It's primarily meant for people who live in China or North Korea or Saudi Arabia or Iran and places like that where... certain... parts of Internet are unaccessible (and being caught of accessing them may result in death penalty).

That's obviously limited to direct downloads. But in theory, if it happened to spew me an US range virtual IP number, I could probably watch Galactica Webisodes through it - that is, if it weren't so bloody slow. :rolleyes:
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Offline Bobboau

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Re: My cable company found me....
I don't see how that thing would help, the computer you use as the proxy would belong to someone and would have it's connectionsloged, and you'd still be able to back track it to the user.
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Offline Polpolion

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Re: My cable company found me....
Azureus is bit torrent.

Torrent = the file that you open up using a client that allows you to download stuff in a P2P connection (like Kazaa and Limewire except not)

BitTorrent = a program that opens up and downloads torrent files

Azureaus = a different program that opens up and downloads torrent files

http://www.bittorrent.com/

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/


That help?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2006, 07:20:01 pm by thesizzler »

 

Offline redsniper

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Re: My cable company found me....
Actually bittorrent is a peer to peer er... system, method, something like that, in which you have torrent files (duh) and bittorrent clients to open said files such as the default client (your 1st link) and the Azureus client (which is the best).
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Offline Mars

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Re: My cable company found me....
Azureus is bit torrent.

Torrent = the file that you open up using a client that allows you to download stuff in a P2P connection (like Kazaa and Limewire except not)

BitTorrent = a program that opens up and downloads torrent files

Azureaus = a different program that opens up and downloads torrent files

http://www.bittorrent.com/

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/


That help?
Uh... how hard did you actually look at the definition? BitTorrent is the name of the protocall too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_torrent That clear things up?

 

Offline redsniper

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Re: My cable company found me....
crossposting, FTW.
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Offline Mars

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Re: My cable company found me....
~15 seconds apart  :D

 

Offline Taristin

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Re: My cable company found me....
I have Optimum Online at home. Never had an issue. You must have been suspect to scrutiny for using heavy bandwidth, and upon investigation, they found you.
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Offline Nuke

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Re: My cable company found me....
using a proxy isnt a 100% fix. ilicit proxys arent always set up right and they may have security holes in them.  proxy services are for security not piracy. piracy through them, if detected, would require them, in order to protect their own ass, check their logs and turn you in.
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Offline Fury

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Re: My cable company found me....
This topic is treading a fine line. ZmaN's asking how not to get caught pirating, the answer's simple; don't pirate.

No matter what services you use, your ISP will always know how much bandwidth you are using and will investigate data packets you send and receive. If they find majority of your bandwidth used by encrypted packets, then that is a reason enough to be alarmed. Not only that but they are able to trace these packets back to their source, using a proxy will only strenghten their reason to investigate further. Of course, so much depends on your ISP. Some will investigate on their own, some won't care until pressured by authorities and some will require definite proof from said authorities before taking any action.

You can discuss about piracy, P2P and whatever, but helping ZmaN to continue illegal activities is going against the forum rules.

 

Offline Polpolion

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Re: My cable company found me....
Azureus is bit torrent.

Torrent = the file that you open up using a client that allows you to download stuff in a P2P connection (like Kazaa and Limewire except not)

BitTorrent = a program that opens up and downloads torrent files

Azureaus = a different program that opens up and downloads torrent files

http://www.bittorrent.com/

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/


That help?
Uh... how hard did you actually look at the definition? BitTorrent is the name of the protocall too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_torrent That clear things up?

It was kind of obvious that I meant the client bittorrent when I said "Bittorrent dosen't like me, I use Azureus".

What you're saying is like saying "I can do this" and getting a response like "What? You can of green beans do this?"

That clear things up?
« Last Edit: September 28, 2006, 05:48:20 pm by thesizzler »

 

Offline ZmaN

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Re: My cable company found me....
This topic is treading a fine line. ZmaN's asking how not to get caught pirating, the answer's simple; don't pirate.

No matter what services you use, your ISP will always know how much bandwidth you are using and will investigate data packets you send and receive. If they find majority of your bandwidth used by encrypted packets, then that is a reason enough to be alarmed. Not only that but they are able to trace these packets back to their source, using a proxy will only strenghten their reason to investigate further. Of course, so much depends on your ISP. Some will investigate on their own, some won't care until pressured by authorities and some will require definite proof from said authorities before taking any action.

You can discuss about piracy, P2P and whatever, but helping ZmaN to continue illegal activities is going against the forum rules.

no I'm not pirating anything as of this week and so forth.  I'm trying to keep the cable company as far as possible from me right now.  Thats partly a reason why my FTP is down...
Well what do I do now?  Well Jack, you seem to have an act for blowing things up....

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Offline WMCoolmon

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Re: My cable company found me....
"FTP server" set off a red flag for me, as I know it's something that not all cable ISPs allow (servers on their connections).

Found some funny info on Optimum Online. Apparently, they practice a very interesting practice of capping the upload rates of their subscribers by at least 1/3 if they upload at the full connection speed for more than a few minutes. The only evidence they have that this is fully acceptable and that the user is actually getting what they're paying for is a clause in their agreement that says that they'll take whatever means necessary to maintain the security and stability of their servers. Optimum Online does not alert the user that this has happened, and will only inform them once they call that on the fourth occurence of this, their service will be terminated.

The "Boost" version of the service apparently allows servers to be run. I'm guessing that the standard service agreement forbids running a server, since I've only seen the Boost service mentioned with servers (To the exclusion of normal service). The website has no effective way to compare the two, however. Furthermore, OO has apparently stated that capping also applies to servers running on the Boost connection.

So I'd say that by running any kind of server, you're putting your connection speed/existence at risk.

And if you need to ask people whether or not your uploads/downloads with a certain filesharing program can be monitored, I'd make a wild guess that you may be thinking about doing something not entirely legit.
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Offline achtung

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Re: My cable company found me....
"FTP server" set off a red flag for me, as I know it's something that not all cable ISPs allow (servers on their connections).

Thanks for reminding me.

I still host game servers from time to time though, and it apparently isn't noticed.  :nervous:
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Offline Taristin

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Re: My cable company found me....
If OptOnline cracked down on game servers, then the greater metropolitan area would be without service :p
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Offline Nuke

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Re: My cable company found me....
my isp has a good attitude twards people running servers. of course my service has a capped monthly usage, and for every gigabyte over you go they charge you 20 bucks. its also a very slow connection compaired to the 3 megabit cable connections you get elsewhere. theyre are so in the stone ages that they use static ips. infact im thinking about running a freespace dedicated server on my moms computer, i just need to figure out how to run it in the background so she wont notice it while she does ebay.

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Offline ZmaN

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Re: My cable company found me....
well most people who download off my ftp are going at about 200 kpbs, and since we get like upto 2.5 megabits service (and i've tested that), i dont think I ahd ever hit the threshold for that.

I think they saw ALOT of downloading from bittorrent on my part (seeing as I had about 750 going down at one time).  That HAS to be it.

However the thing I dont get is that when they indicated the "infringing file", it was the daemon tools setup program.  Whcih makes me think that the name of the torrent (sims) triggered this...

Still, no more pirating for me.
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Offline Prophet

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Re: My cable company found me....
can companies track my rapidshare downloads??????
Because no one who actually knows thing won't answer, I'll do it.

I quess they can. But I seriously doubt that you would be worth all the trouble. Thats my operating philosophy. I don't share much. I operate erraticly, and I live in Finland. Thus I should be generally safe since coming down on me would be way too much trouble than it's worth. :D

They would have to first discover that you download from Rapidshare. Then they need to find out what you dl. Then they need to to find out if that is illegal. That should take some effort and, unless you are a god or mentioned the word t.e.r.r.o.r.i.s.m in email or forum, you are not that interesting. ;)
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Offline ZmaN

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Re: My cable company found me....
can companies track my rapidshare downloads??????
Because no one who actually knows thing won't answer, I'll do it.

I quess they can. But I seriously doubt that you would be worth all the trouble. Thats my operating philosophy. I don't share much. I operate erraticly, and I live in Finland. Thus I should be generally safe since coming down on me would be way too much trouble than it's worth. :D

They would have to first discover that you download from Rapidshare. Then they need to find out what you dl. Then they need to to find out if that is illegal. That should take some effort and, unless you are a god or mentioned the word t.e.r.r.o.r.i.s.m in email or forum, you are not that interesting. ;)


lol..

I guess kinda like spam filters...

Well what do I do now?  Well Jack, you seem to have an act for blowing things up....

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