[Colonol Dekker]

When you make a Mark II, it generally behooves you to make the family resemblence a tad more obvious...

I dont think the Herc MK2 looks much like the original Hercy though.......

[Nuke]

your gatling guns are too small

[asyikarea51]

umm... I've already gotten myself used to R2's Ursa II, but Raptor's one isn't bad either.

I only have one gripe concerning the quad rear engines on Raptor's one. Maybe they're too boxy or something.

Miniguns, eh... *goes off to ponder the... "issue"...*

[Colonol Dekker]

your gatling guns are too small

But it allows a higher volume of Ammo to be carried *AHAHHHH* 

[Raptor]

your gatling guns are too small

Too small?   The bore of the barrels is larger than a mans head...

But it allows a higher volume of Ammo to be carried *AHAHHHH* 

Exactly   I reached that same issuse with the Zoid I designed.  The original version had ~240 rounds per vulcan.  The final has 10k per

umm... I've already gotten myself used to R2's Ursa II, but Raptor's one isn't bad either.

I only have one gripe concerning the quad rear engines on Raptor's one. Maybe they're too boxy or something.

Miniguns, eh... *goes off to ponder the... "issue"...*

Well, I can rework the engines into two tall, thin strips (bit like the original actually... )

Not sure what you mean by 'issue' concerning the vulcans though...

Any other comments people?

[achtung]

You could just claim the wings to be an EFAMS type thing, then use the animation code on them or something.

Of course, I have no idea how hard it would be to use animations, so if it's a ridiculous idea, forget about it.

[Colonol Dekker]

*goes to google/wiki EFAMS* 

[Snail]

umm... I've already gotten myself used to R2's Ursa II, but Raptor's one isn't bad either.

I only have one gripe concerning the quad rear engines on Raptor's one. Maybe they're too boxy or something.

Actually, I like Raptor's Ursa better than the INF SCP Ursa. Provided it's not too high poly, it could be dropped in with some tweaking, but I doubt Woo will ever do that.

And maybe Raptor won't like it either, since he said he was

... dubious... about Inferno.

Not that I'm sour about that remark or anything, I know a lot of people don't think highly of Inferno.

[Nuke]

your gatling guns are too small

Too small?   The bore of the barrels is larger than a mans head...

still its not big enough

[Trivial Psychic]

You could just claim the wings to be an EFAMS type thing, then use the animation code on them or something.

Of course, I have no idea how hard it would be to use animations, so if it's a ridiculous idea, forget about it.

Are you referring to some kind of folding wing & weapons pod arrangement, similar to the drop-ships from "Aliens"?  I actually think that would be rather cool.  A), have a single, shoulder-mounted anhedral wing (no biplane) and pod that hinges down against the sides of the craft during stowage, B), a singe low-mounted dihedral wing which hinges upwards against the side of the craft during stowage, C), both of these, though the 2 wings would need to be staggered, with the 2 pods meeting up when fully deployed (resembling a B5 Whitestar), or perhaps a configuration that looks more like the "Aliens" drop ship, with upper-mounted dihedral and lower-mounted anhedral, each folding back into the fuselage during stowage.

[Colonol Dekker]

Hedral this, Hedral that...........


Draw a pic in MS Paint and post it

[Trivial Psychic]

Done

[Colonol Dekker]

*mc-snort* Ok i see how ya mean, Very nice, is this an implementable feature, Would it involve locking fire points to sub-objects and cause mega bumps or is it a good thing?


I need to know *SQueeeee in the pipe 5 by 5*

[Snail]

T'would be cool if someone could make a Jotun model where the missile pods go in and out (there are arrows showing where they should move).

Not for Inferno, Woo doesn't want to have animated things like that, for me.

[Raptor]

Sadly, I don't have a clue how to do that

Would be cool if when you selected the Hornet (or other small missile) rack, the pods folded out, ready to fire.  And then when you selected something else, they folded back in again.

Although I kind of think the 'Aliens' Dropship looked a little... strange when it did that

umm... I've already gotten myself used to R2's Ursa II, but Raptor's one isn't bad either.

I only have one gripe concerning the quad rear engines on Raptor's one. Maybe they're too boxy or something.

Actually, I like Raptor's Ursa better than the INF SCP Ursa. Provided it's not too high poly, it could be dropped in with some tweaking, but I doubt Woo will ever do that.

And maybe Raptor won't like it either, since he said he was

... dubious... about Inferno.

Not that I'm sour about that remark or anything, I know a lot of people don't think highly of Inferno.

You assume wrong.  I wouldn't mind at all if Inferno wanted to use my Ursa Mk2

My main compliant about Inferno is about the ships themselves, rather than anything else.  In my eyes, they are ugly.  But (and I stress) that is just my opinion

There is also fact that a single solar system, even if it is Sol, can build a massive fleet of ships, including a 17(?)km long monster, after having to under a radical transistion (and possible depression), which just happen to mount beams... when they have not seen the technology until contact with the GTVA

I would have only given them a half dozen 1k frigates, no beams... maybe a super destroyer flagship.

[Vasudan Admiral]

Sadly, I don't have a clue how to do that

If you can make rotating multipart turrets, you already know most things you need to to be able to create a submodel animation.

And the wiki is your friend for everything else! http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Animation_Code

[Snail]

There is also fact that a single solar system, even if it is Sol, can build a massive fleet of ships, including a 17(?)km long monster, after having to under a radical transistion (and possible depression), which just happen to mount beams... when they have not seen the technology until contact with the GTVA

I would have only given them a half dozen 1k frigates, no beams... maybe a super destroyer flagship.

Same thing here about the Icanus, in fact I even made a thread 'debating' (complaining?) about that recently, but by heart I like Inferno. Because, yadda, yadda.

However, I would've given them beams because they would have had the Lucy's wreckage to work on anyway.

I do think some of the ships look ugly, but I think Inferno is possibly the closest thing we will get to FS --- 3.

In my eyes, there are two ways people invision FS --- 3.

1) A rapeload of new ships and weapons, concentration more on the actual missions than the storyline (though there is still one), etc. (Inferno)

2) A few new ships, super dooper Goober concentrated on the storyline, atmosphere setting missions. (Sync, BWO)

But now we're getting off topic so I'll try not to go into it any deeper.


So, about the Ursa II itself, will it be a public release or a super secretive forget about it thing going into a campaign? I would like to get my hands on this, looks like fun for blowing stuff up.

[Raptor]

However, I would've given them beams because they would have had the Lucy's wreckage to work on anyway.

I would be so sure, since when the lucy blew, that would have pretty much wrecked the cannons.  And correct me if I'm wrong, but when the jump node collasped with the Lucy only partly out, didn't it come down in front of the beams? (I'm regarding the bulges behind the 'arms' as being where the main beams are located, not on the arms itself)

Still, even if I'm wrong, I'd put the beams only on the flagship.

So, about the Ursa II itself, will it be a public release or a super secretive forget about it thing going into a campaign? I would like to get my hands on this, looks like fun for blowing stuff up.

All my stuff that I post here is going to be publicly released   When, however is another matter...

If you can make rotating multipart turrets, you already know most things you need to to be able to create a submodel animation.

And the wiki is your friend for everything else! http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Animation_Code

Thanks VA.  I'll take a look-see.  Depending on how hard it would be, it might come in, if people want it.

Any other comments on the ship people?

[Raptor]

Sorry I haven't been working much on this.  Just got over a case of writers block on the latest stroy of my 'Legacies' arc.

Here is how it looks with two tall thin engines... sort of.  I've only done the one, and I haven't detailed it up yet.

[Snail]

LOL

That looks hillarious. But I still like the one with two (four) small ones.