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I finally decided to get around to making the Arcadia jumpgate extension, possibly as a model contest entry.

Anyways, I want your feedback. There are 8 heavy beam emplacements on pylons (yellow/orange), so there's no need for Mjolnirs.   You can see the size in the picture; that can be changed with no problems.

I guess my main question is whether I should connect it to a filler section in the Arcadia's side slot (red) or just left as-is.

On a side note, the smaller rotating pieces (green) actually slip through the larger rotating pieces (purple).  

 

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Interesting.  I don't really like the idea of the big beam cannons but otherwise pretty good.
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Interesting.  I don't really like the idea of the big beam cannons but otherwise pretty good.

You'd rather have the troublesome Mjolnirs?  

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I'd say make it a bit thicker to keep in touch with the bulky Terran design standards, ans fit it in the red area.  Cripes, what's the next extention gonna be?  A dry dock, a sheild generator, a hanger bay (that'll perk Zeronet's interests  )?
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I think I would seperate them farther. However, rather than connecting the two, I would put a sort of smaller 'outbuilding' on the ring. Also, I really like the beams on the ring. It makes sense to secure nodes in that way (why don't they do that with more of the border nodes? *heh*

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Originally posted by delta_7890:
Cripes, what's the next extention gonna be?  A dry dock, a sheild generator, a hanger bay (that'll perk Zeronet's interests   )?

Ummm...

 
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Originally posted by Sandwich in this thread:
Yeah, I'm thinking something along those lines, Analazon. Maybe the GTExD (GT Extension - Defense). That way you'd have others like the GTExF (fighter/bombers), GTExC (cargo), GTExM (medical), GTExR (research), GTExE (engines - for relocating Arcadias), GTExY (Yard - shipyard for constructing (up to corvette class?)), GTExG (Gas refinery - a docking point for gas miners, or a gas miner in itself for stations inside nebulae), GTExB/GTExO/GTExN (blocakde/offense/node - a weaponry platform with all firepower concentrated towards one choke point), GTExS (Shielding for stations in close orbit of stars - think like the Star Wars books' shieldships - huge umbrellas).

Think that'll satisfy?  

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The GTI Arcadia already have good solid hangerbays however further hanger bays can only benifit such a station. 8 Beams wont do much good against a wing of Jump capable Bombers but if you had extra Hangers, you could blast them out of the sky with figher or you could be boring and add Ultra AAA's to that Jumpgate.
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Originally posted by Zeronet:
The GTI Arcadia already have good solid hangerbays however further hanger bays can only benifit such a station. 8 Beams wont do much good against a wing of Jump capable Bombers but if you had extra Hangers, you could blast them out of the sky with figher or you could be boring and add Ultra AAA's to that Jumpgate.

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What I said to Sandwich was no to attachment, the gate is fine on it's own...

Also it makes better tactical sense, since a huge arm attaching the station to the device would get in the way of some of the heavier defenses of the station   (hey every TerranTurret#Weak you got is important!)

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Originally posted by Zeronet:
The GTI Arcadia already have good solid hangerbays however further hanger bays can only benifit such a station. 8 Beams wont do much good against a wing of Jump capable Bombers but if you had extra Hangers, you could blast them out of the sky with figher or you could be boring and add Ultra AAA's to that Jumpgate.


Ok, shut up. Just... shut up.    

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What I said to Sandwich was no to attachment, the gate is fine on it's own...

I know, and thanks, but the thing is that there are plenty (well, at least two that I know of) free-floating jumpgates. Making this one attached, especially to the huge slot in the Arcadia, would be cool, methinks.


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That extension is really nice!

What other extensions did you make so far????

Oh, btw, and the Amaunet? Have you finished it yet??
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Originally posted by sandwich:
 I know, and thanks, but the thing is that there are plenty (well, at least two that I know of) free-floating jumpgates. Making this one attached, especially to the huge slot in the Arcadia, would be cool, methinks.



the thing is, if it's not attached, it's not an extension anymore  
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Think that'll satisfy?  


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That extension is really nice!

What other extensions did you make so far????

Oh, btw, and the Amaunet? Have you finished it yet??

I've done the GTExD and the GTExE, for Defense and Engine, respectively. I'd like to get debris and LOD's in the GTExD before I release it, but I have no time. Anyone want to try?  

Ah, yes... the Amaunet. She's essentially finished, but I've recieved reports of the game crashing when it gets destroyed. Whaddya'll think? Should I release it and see if anyone can figure out the problems?  

 
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In time, the Arcaria will transform from a useless floating junk heap to a full-fleged mobile (?) battlestation of mass destruction.

In time? Look at this thread.    

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Anyways, I want your feedback. There are 8 heavy beam emplacements on pylons (yellow/orange), so there's no need for Mjolnirs.   You can see the size in the picture; that can be changed with no problems.

Shibby!

 
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I guess my main question is whether I should connect it to a filler section in the Arcadia's side slot (red) or just left as-is.

 
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I'd say make it a bit thicker to keep in touch with the bulky Terran design standards

Yes to both. I don't think that Terran's first subspace node is going to be as thin and streamlined as the Ancients' seeing as how they had a lot more practice than Terrans.

And I would say to connect it, via a thick arm or something... because you want that distance from the Arcadia (in case something goes wrong), but also it'll need a big power supply for the subspace generators (or whatever you call them) and those big beams. If you make that big red part the power supply then you just need to connect it to the ring.

And, as stated... it wouldn't be an extension if it wasn't attached.  

 
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On a side note, the smaller rotating pieces (green) actually slip through the larger rotating pieces (purple).  

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[BYes to both. I don't think that Terran's first subspace node is going to be as thin and streamlined as the Ancients' seeing as how they had a lot more practice than Terrans.

And I would say to connect it, via a thick arm or something... because you want that distance from the Arcadia (in case something goes wrong), but also it'll need a big power supply for the subspace generators (or whatever you call them) and those big beams. If you make that big red part the power supply then you just need to connect it to the ring.

And, as stated... it wouldn't be an extension if it wasn't attached.  [/B]


My thoughts exactly... that red part would be a nasty thing to have explode, though...  

Ok, I'll get to working on the changes... new pic when the changes are done.  


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Um, Sandwich, all I have to say is........WOW!!!!!!

That is............for lack of better words, Supar l33t.

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Scenerio 1: Fighter bay

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Scenerio 2: Ultra Anti-Fighter Beams

*sound of beam charging up*
Cancer 1: This is ca-


Nah the Hangers would have rails and the fighters would scream out faster than the eye and blast Cancer Wing. Also if this Cancer wing is at long range the Beams wont get them and they might use their "Long" Range missiles to destroy the beams. Also its called a Hanger not a fighterbay, because Bombers use them too!

Would a Iris work on a subspace portal? Like the one in stargate.

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