[Viper01]

WOW!!  I did not expect so many responses when I started this topic. I can see I was not the only one to give this topic some thought. Thank you all for your thoughts and ideas.

[Ace]

People do seem to ignore the fact that until the Terrans and Vasudans the Shivans wiped the clock on just about any race they encountered.

Why need support ships when your vessels are invulnerable to anything they're attacking? Oh wait... we're losing thousands of fighters... because somehow they've stolen some of our technology and adapted it? Ermmm... stay the course?

[Snail]

People do seem to ignore the fact that until the Terrans and Vasudans the Shivans wiped the clock on just about any race they encountered.

There's no evidence of that. There's no evidence that Terrans and Vasudans weren't the only ones to put up a (decent ) fight. The Ancients probably put up one hell of a fight, but in the end they all got f00ked.