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Offline Phenix

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First of all, i would to congratulate all of the WC SAGA team for a really great job!

I read about this mod a few weeks ago, but recived my new notebook only a few day ago. I immidiately downloaded and played Wc Saga and... oh my god!  :yes: :yes: :yes:
 I couldn't belive my eyes and ears. :eek2: :eek:
The game looks fantastic, but more than the graphic part, I enjoyed the whole experience a lot. I don't know how you did it, but you have managed to recreate the WC univere in a truly fantastic way......particularly the battles are just the right difficulty on normal setting (I'm ashamed to say it, since I consider myself a good pilot, but the first dogfight, I got blown from the sky in the first pass by a pirate :rolleyes:), the missions look great and realistic and the whole package is what I always immagined  WC to should be.

Having read a few posts, I would like to make a few considerations:

1) I have read the whole argument about the laser turrets on capships doing to little damage, that ship lenght and so one...
Personally, I think you have managed to balance pretty well the whole thing....
On medium setting, cpu fighters are very hard to get because they attack like a real formation an if you are not good and know what to do, you get blown from the sky in 1 minute.

Also, (on medium difficulty)  FINALLY, (and this is the first WC game I can say that for) Capships are very good at defending themselfs and are moderately difficult to destroy. This is very realistic because it was illogical l to bring down a capship with just 1 fighter (like in wc1,2,3,4,prophecy). In this aspet I can say your game is easily better than any other original wc game I have ever played, including the various mods.
Of course, a lonely destroyer can get in real trouble if attacked by 3-4 heavy fighters with torpedos, but I am happy to see that finally, when you attack a capship protected by a few corvettes and destroyers and fighters, you get a "warm welcome" from CROSSFIRE which is usually VERY LETAL to slow moving targets like a bomber; forceing you to do the mission "sistematically"...first fighter cover, then turrets, then torpedo, then By-By pirate :p
Maybe the Saga TEAM should only consider placeing a few(2) more turrets on destroyers to make them more "survivable" (but of course, this is a subject for wc saga testers to decide)
The whole idea of having to wear down the capship by destroying the turrets in a certain part, to make it an easier target, is GREAT and ULTRAREALISTIC. No more 1 torpedo Fire and forget...on medium difficulty, capships are very good on bringing it down before it hits.

I am so pleased with WC SAGA that I decided I will also send you my lines for voice acting as soon as I can...I am not english, so I speak with an accent, but I think it would be nice to have a good variety of different pilots voices in the final relese, giving it a realistic touch, after all, not all fighterpilots in wc universe are from england/earth, right? :D

By the way...I know that it takes time to do this game and that it is a Free-time project..... and playing the Prologue I probably don't even know how much time and effort you put into it, but if it's true that the final product will be finished only in 2-3 years.....well,then I'm simply going to die :snipe: ...expecially since EA ( :ick:) doesn't want to revive wc because it doesn't earn them enough money.
You are (in a sense, no pressure though :p) the only hope for our community of having a TRUE wc game in years, complete with internet playing between real squadrons.

Continue with this great work!
« Last Edit: March 22, 2007, 12:38:10 pm by Phenix »

 

Offline Starman01

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:welcome:

Thanks for your post, it means a lot to us to see people getting excited about our little game :) It gives us the energy to continue on the big thing that is going to come someday. Even though it's an ambitious and enormous project we have planned, we hope that we can get it done in not such a distant future. But with all these talented people that form our project team and those that have newly joined us, I'm confident that it will be finished one day (we have come to far to give it up yet :D )



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Offline Phenix

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one more question:
Will there be durango class carriers in the final version of Saga? I know that your idea is to cover wc3 era, but I think durango class ships were also build in the wc3 era (since they are not brand new and just out of the dock in wc4, I think), and since you will probably make us fight kilrathi also in border world sistems, that would be a nice addition to spice up the game! What do you think?
Good luck with your work, I can't wait for it to be finished! :D

 

Offline gevatter Lars

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From what I remember the Durango from WC4 is a old destroyer class the Borderworlds have added a hangardeck to.
If you will see it...who knows ^_^
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Hmm good thought there, I'd like to see a destroyer Durangos.  Also were the banshees, vindicators exclusively border world? I assume they were WC3 era too.
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Offline gevatter Lars

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The Banshee was a relativ old design, the Vindicators newer but not very advanced and the Avenger where converted shuttles. That is if my memories serve me well.
So it could be possible to see them but I think you would more likely to see older WC1+2 ships in the Boarderworlds during that time. Their resources where very thin and so it is cheaper to buy older ships from confed then building up a complete construction base.
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Offline Phenix

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I personally think it would be better to see banshee's and wc4-stile spacecraft.....the wc1 and 2 craft are more....uhm, how to put it....childish...if compared to the wc3,4 era fighters,except for the few models like the ones you already included in the prologue (pirates),  which fit perfectly I think.

But I understand that many of you started with WC1 (I was 'Lucky' since I started with FMV WC3,4 hihihihi ;) ) so there are probably many people in this forum who look at the ferret like at their first love (for me it is the Hellcat V  :wakka: :).
The choice must be hard for the Saga team, expecially because of the difficulty to balace the old fighters against the new ones, but I'm sure that at the end you will make it, just like you did in the prolouge.
 

 

Offline Aginor

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The WC1-2 Spacecraft have to be reworked to make them WC3ish, but as you already mentioned, they can look really great, and that's the way how they can get into the game.
 ;)

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Offline gevatter Lars

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The question is not so what we want but more what would be "logical" to be seen. We try to make the story convincing in that part as most as possible. So if our research digs up sources that say its more likely that their are WC1+2 era ships they will be used. Their are exceptions thought ^_^

I also would like to see the Banshee again. On of my favorite light fighters.
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Offline Starman01

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I also would like to see the Banshee again. On of my favorite light fighters.

Well, WCS 2 is coming (everyone, don't ask when :) ) Remember ? There we will need it.... :D
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Offline gevatter Lars

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I know I know...just said that I would like to fly the Banshee.
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I had a banshee model ready to go ages ago but it was one of the several ships that got lost  :sigh:
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Offline takashi

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i would like the final release containing HTL ships from scooby, since the current ones are solow-poly. (yes, getting a new card warrants a new opinion.)

 
Most of the kilrathi fighters, except the gorthi have been htl'ed by me already.  Besides majority of my stuff is far from canon.
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Offline takashi

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how? they look just like the ingame ones but...better. all you need is some table tinkering to make them fully canon.