[BlackDove]

Why is this thread a discussion?

Change is hard. Deal with it.

The End.

[Taristin]

Dont fool yourself, BD, this is just to placate the masses

[chief1983]

HEY RANDOM PERSON
INSULT

[Taristin]

This thread may very soon end up in the padded cell...

[Goober5000]

HEY RANDOM PERSON
INSULT

RETORT

[chief1983]

HEY RANDOM PERSON
INSULT

RETORT

COUNTER-RETORT

[Taristin]

NONSENSICAL COMMENT ABOUT FISH

[BlackDove]

Dont fool yourself, BD, this is just to placate the masses

All the more reason to dump the pointless and very stupid discussion overboard.

"Waaaaagh my political threads are gone, waaaaaaaagh my community is no longer the focus, waaaaaagh now I have to scroll all the way down to post about the size of my penis, waaaaaaaagh I wet the bed again..."

Seriously. This place used to kick ass when Hard Light Art was the forum you visited first. I had respect for this place back then, when it was obvious I was in the company of people with skills. Today not so much. Maybe things can change hopefully.

Edit: Nice touch on the "Posts in this forum don't count towards your total". That ought to cull 75% of the retarded posts right off. Good one.

[chief1983]

NONSENSICAL COMMENT ABOUT FISH

WORDS OF PRAISE FOR FISHFOOD

[Rictor]

"Waaaaagh my political threads are gone, waaaaaaaagh my community is no longer the focus, waaaaaagh now I have to scroll all the way down to post about the size of my penis, waaaaaaaagh I wet the bed again..."

Seriously. This place used to kick ass when Hard Light Art was the forum you visited first. I had respect for this place back then, when it was obvious I was in the company of people with skills. Today not so much. Maybe things can change hopefully.

That's great: open condescension for the people who make this a thriving, active community rather than a deserted ghost-town. Don't get me wrong, I remember the good old days with nothing but fondness, and it's a bit strange not being able to recognize half the names of the people around, but like you said - things change. Do you honestly expect people to be as enthusiastic about the SCP as they were three years ago? Do you expect new models and fanfic to spark the same interest as they did back in the day?

The fact that this place exists at all is something I am thankful for every day. It could very easily not. How many games can sustain an active fan base this long? And yet here you are, *****ing that things have gone too off topic. I count myself lucky that there are still people making mods and TCs and so on, which I can download the play if I so choose. Like I said, I have absolutely no problem with the changes, nor the desire to focus on the FS2-related aspects of the board, but only the attitudes I see behind some of choices.

I don't know how you intended it, but what I hear is: "You stupid, talentless nobodies -  most of you aren't worthy of the effort we put in. Maybe once we clear out the riff-raff, HLP will finally be clean and orderly again."

Good day to you, sir!
*flaps cape*

[BlackDove]

Good, you have excellent hearing.

Note: Not that I'm any different or on a high horse. Sure I may be involved in some projects but at the end of the day, my only real skill is flying in the damn game, and stacked against true artistic or coding talent, that's like cleaning the ****ing toilets.

However, if the place gets its shine on once more, you won't be hearing from me a lot. Assholes like me have no place in a productive community, and if anything, I'll probably contribute to the "Ghost Town" effect you so eloquently describe.

However I'd take a "Ghost Town" any day to lurk over, than the ability to post in some **** infested cesspool that this place has been for the past YEARS. Man, if I was taylor I would've ditched this bull**** a long time ago. All that hard work and progress, for WHAT? Getting people on the board with pretty pictures, having them realize that veterancy is the only valued currency around here, and then have them go post in the main Hard Light Forums (most active and top ones) where the thread of the day is "Kazan masturbates to political topic #2956", and have them try to up their post count there so they'd mean something around here and have their word count for something.

Maybe what this place should be teaching them instead is to open 3ds Max or Photoshop and start doing some **** that can compete with what the rest of the talented people are putting out.

The point is, know your goddamn place. You belong on the bottom, unless you have something to contribute to the top.

[Mr. Vega]

One way to contribute (never mind the fact that we contribute more than all except the most materially productive modders/programmers simply by being here): if the admins are making mistakes, you can contribute by telling them that they're wrong. I'd rather not have this place run like 1930s Japan.

You know a place is gonna die when we start getting the wonderful eilitism Inquisitor is sprouting. Reminds me of LOAF, actually.

[Mr. Vega]

I'd rather this place go out due to sheer apathy then a few elitist snobs driving everyone away, thank you very much.

[Taristin]

You know a place is gonna die when we start getting the wonderful eilitism Inquisitor is sprouting. Reminds me of LOAF, actually.

He's sprouting elitism? He's condemning it...

[Mr. Vega]

The whole "you forumites are all useless, only I deserve to have my voice heard" kinda strikes me as fitting the definition.

[BlackDove]

If that's the only thing you got from what he wrote, you need to start working on your inferiority complexes.

[Taristin]

I dont think he's saying that at all... More that he's complaining that the forumites seem to be becoming more and more insulated, and acting as if the newbies arent important. Sticking to the same arguments over and over.... and.. eh.. there's a lot in the support forum that backs up his posts. You probably only see this one.

[Mr. Vega]

He's pissed with all the name calling bull**** that's been going on in HL, which is fine. But he also seems to think that the GenDis has never contributed anything to this place, and thus does not deserve a voice. Well, guess what - I disagree!

[Taristin]

He's saying it doesnt deserve prominence. And it really doesn't. It's like the anus of the forum...

[BlackDove]

It's the anus of every forum when allowed to grow like that.