[taylor]

Opengl32.dll is in the sys32 folder, looked for last modified date which is earlier today (when I rerereinstalled by vid drivers?) Want to compare size of file? lol Or should I start poking it apart with a debugger? :-/

opengl32.dll isn't provided by the video drivers, it's part of Windows itself.  What is the version/copyright of that DLL?  I believe it should be copyright Microsoft, and be version 5.1.2600.2180 for XP sp2.

[zank]

yes exactly right. What I meant is perhaps the vid card drivers accessed it. Oh wait never mind! The last... oh this is interesting. (see attached) oh NEVER MIND LMAO. the created and modified date are "Wednesday, August 04, 2004, 3:56:46 AM". I just noticed it was AM, which would mean this morning, but my computer was off this morning at 3! (I was up but my computer was DEFINATELY off). I didn't notice the 2004 though .

Ok so the opengl32.dll hasn't been touched, it's fine. So what now? Do I try fs2? Do I show you the OpenGL Extensions viewer? (it's the same as far as i can tell)?

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[taylor]

If the extension viewer doesn't do anything different then FSO certainly isn't going to work either.   Something is just completely fubar on your system, but I can't think of anything else for you to try at the moment, other than a complete reinstall.

[zank]

That's what I was afraid of as well, but I'm in no condition for a reinstall. My hard drive is nearly full, and I have lots of stuff I'd have to back up. Hell, I'm prolly gonna have to buy a couple HDs, wipe this one clean and screw WinXp. The only reason I keep it is for Games (better drivers on XP than nvidia's proprietary crap, although it's been a while I guess) and some apps (like photoshop).

No more suggestions? :'(

I'll try running it but I doubt it like you said.

[zank]

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNope.

::Cries::

::Starts source code hunting::

[zank]

What would happend if you removed the error reporting from the code?

Code: [Select]

if ( k+1 >= ext->num_extensions ) {
mprintf(("  Unable to find extension \"%s\".\n", ext->extension_name[k]));

if (ext->required_to_run) {
#ifdef _WIN32
Error( LOCATION, "The required OpenGL extension '%s' is not supported by your current driver version or graphics card.  You can either use the Direct3D rendering engine (non-FRED builds only) or update your video card drivers.\n\n", ext->extension_name );
#else
Error( LOCATION, "The required OpenGL extension '%s' is not supported by your current driver version or graphics card.\n", ext->extension_name );
#endif
}
}
}

So remove the if I guess. So it's unable to find the extension or what ever is going wrong, BUT it still continues running....?

[taylor]

The extension is "required_to_run" for a reason, you can't use the game without that extension.  Extension are features which indicate a particular graphics feature exists.  If the extension can't be found the the code can't, and won't, use that feature.  Based on your extension viewer output you are missing every single extension needed by the game.

There is nothing wrong with the game code, it's your computer which has the issue, and no amount of code changes is going to fix that.

[zank]

Something that I've neglected to mention is that there have been some anomalies on my computer of recently that I can't account for.

1. I use "switch user" (Windows + L) a lot. Sort of like lock computer functionality. Well all of a sudden my computer started switching user every 1 minute of not being used.so I could be reading some page and boom, switch user. if it was already in the login area the screen would flash for a sec, every one minute. After some Googleing I figured out it had something to do with some screen saver setting. I don't use screen savers. I disabled the option for ring you to the login area and it disappeared. Hmmmm

2. My Taskbar is different. This one doesn't seem significant, but there used to be a line right around the >>. like so: >> |
Why did it disappear? hmmm.

Also some performance quicks. My first thought was virus. I uninstalled my old antiVir and got a newer copy, did a scan... nada. Did some adware scanning... nada.

Lastly, I don't remember when exactly, might have been the morning that I discovered the OpenGL issue, right before... hmm.... I installed this weird 3D screen saver program that my dad has been using for a while. Just to give it a whirl. Turns out it's crap and i got rid of it (the whole thing lasted less than 2 minz on my comp). I've since reinstalled it to see if it had OpenGL options or whatnot, there's like no options or configurations or anything. It's called "Astro Gemini", and I would HIGHLY advise against using it (just in case). Somethings just clicked in my mind and I'm starting to wonder what it did to my computer. Again the timeframe is a bit hazy but that may be it.....

Their site however only talks about DirectX8, so it may be a red hering, but I'm checkin it out.

I feel like an idiot for installing the piece of crap...SCREEN SAVER... program.... lmao.

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Just read your post, you're misunderstanding me. I meant to remover the error REPORTING, see if I can skip over it, but you're right.

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[zank]

Ok so bottom line is that my extensions have run away? I don't see how a screen saver program could have done that... I'm currently running AdAware (which interestingly enough is CREATING viruses according to my antiVir.... Nod32....). Taylor, please don't take offense, I never meant to hint that the problem was on your end. I acknowledge that my computer went Fubar somewhere, the whole point of this thread is to get someone to help me figure out where and how to fix it.

Is there any way to figure out WHICH extensions are missing? As I said earlier, I don't think I can fully trust what Extensions Viewer is reporting, since it reports up to OpenGL 2.1, which my video card does NOT support. Do you think I should try a forceware 80 driver?

[zank]

Quick update: AdAware found nothing sizable.

I'm really sad, plus it sucks having to wait for you to get on. The wait is unbearable! jk I appreciate any time you use to help me, but I'm not sure what else CAN be done shy of tearing my system apart with SoftIce.

[taylor]

Is there any way to figure out WHICH extensions are missing?

ALL of them.   If you look at the extension viewer report it has an "Extensions" section where it will print out a list of all extensions supported by the card/drives, but in your output it doesn't list any.  I've attached part of my log for you to compare against (I ran this through Wine in my Linux box, so the versions and stuff might appear a bit off to you).  The extension viewer output is correct though, so you can trust what it's telling you regarding what features it thinks your card supports.


I've done more Google searchs and checked NVIDIA forums, but I haven't found a truely valid clue that might help.  It might be worth a try to downgrade your driver version even further, just to see if that might help at all.  You can try the beta version of your current drivers, which apparently worked pretty damn good for most people.  You can find those here: ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/92.91/

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[jr2]

Source for FS2?

Anyways, you don't have nv_oal.dll or nvoal.dll (something to that effect) on your system, do you?  (Prolly not related, but...)  If you do, get rid of it.  It conflicts with Open AL.

[Wanderer]

OpenGL issues.. not OpenAL

[jr2]

Right, but he has an nVidia chipset, right?  :  He therefore prolly has nv_oal.dll

[Mr_Maniac]

@zank: So you've installed a Screen Saver... Hmm...
Screen Savers are sometimes used to deliver MalWare to PCs, but as far as I can see, Gemini Software is a company, that doesn't do things like that...
Well... I only googled for this Screen Saver and I didn't find anything about MalWare

But IF you would have malware on your PC, an "local" installed Scanner won't help...
Then you would have to boot from a diskette or CD and scan from a clean system... But I don't really know if that's the problem...

But fact is: Something is going wrong on your system...

Did you already try to "repair" windows xp? You should be able to do that (or at least TRY it) when you boot from your Windows XP CD... There, you should be told to press "R" somewhere... And there, you can choose between "automatic" repair and a repair-console...
If nothing else helps, you could try that...

[jr2]

Have you ever found the Windows repair to work?  Just curious, because it has never produced (good) results with me.

[zank]

92.91 amde no difference.

I've never found Windows Repair to work, in fact I don't think it works that way. Not worth a reboot, cause I'm pretty sure it's meant more for servers and the likes. I'll try to run a live CD or Linux via VMWare. Hopefully it will run, cause if it doesn't it means that my Vid card is fried, which would just destroy me. I've had a terrible weak (not including this gaming stuff). For my vid card to be partially fried.... :'(

Anyways, never tried to install nvidia's drivers on Linux. First time for everything

[zank]

Ok I'm having Hardware issues. I tried loading Knoppix to ram (needs 1 Gig, I have 2), it stopped at around 92%, twice. It goes at about 5.5+ mB/s then all of a sudden slows down to 600 kB/s, keeps slowing down till like 12 kB/s..... (my memory is dying?)

And now I'm hearing my hard drive do grinding noises. 3 times so far in the last 10 minutes. I tihnk my computer is toast. I have no idea W T F happened, but my computer...just heard the HD again.... I think I have 1 hours tops before it dies, that's if I'm lucky. Thanks all for your help, I think I know why I'm hving OGL issues....more noises! >_<

::dies::

[jr2]

Look up UBCD4Win ; that one's pretty good.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

Ok I'm having Hardware issues. I tried loading Knoppix to ram (needs 1 Gig, I have 2), it stopped at around 92%, twice. It goes at about 5.5+ mB/s then all of a sudden slows down to 600 kB/s, keeps slowing down till like 12 kB/s..... (my memory is dying?)

And now I'm hearing my hard drive do grinding noises. 3 times so far in the last 10 minutes. I tihnk my computer is toast. I have no idea W T F happened, but my computer...just heard the HD again.... I think I have 1 hours tops before it dies, that's if I'm lucky. Thanks all for your help, I think I know why I'm hving OGL issues....more noises! >_<

::dies::

This post brings back some memories.  Had a hard drive get a bad sector right where my video drivers were.  Talk about a nasty problem to track down.   Every time I would remove the drivers and reinstall they would end up right back on the same bad sector.  Luckily it happened when the system was relatively new so I didn't have to reinstall much but did have to get a new drive and reload the system. 

If the drive is making noises download the test utility from whoever makes the drive and run it.   Oh and BACK UP soon.