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Offline Mathwiz6

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
Whoa... I can see the Colossus...

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
The fuel needed for beams would take up space too...
I think that Maxim Ammo and Helios Torpedos are a better use of the space.
Hell. Kayser Lasers instead of Maxims would work too.
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
i thought the GTVA had fusion reactors that supply contant energy, and rarely need refilled with attoms (they work on the same priniple as a star, fusing atoms until they can fuse no more.)

Burn the sucker out of the sky!
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
i thought the GTVA had fusion reactors that supply contant energy, and rarely need refilled with attoms (they work on the same priniple as a star, fusing atoms until they can fuse no more.)

Remember Prometheus-S cannons needed materials only in Sol / Nebula?
Different lasers and beams need different materials.
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
maybe GTVA beams need gasses so pilots can see them and not run into them, and the energy that shivans use makes their beams naturaly red.

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
Edit: A cyclops bomb is fission bomb. Meaning, its as stable as any weapon in modern arsenals. Nuclear bombs dont explode when shot. They need to be DETONATED. Meaning, risk of blowing up is minimal.
No, it's a "non-conventional" warhead, meaning antimatter or some other metastable payload. Whatever's inside, Bad Things happen when it loses containment.
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
as far as i can remember from the FS techroom description of the maxim it saiod somethiong like even tough it is not a solid projectile weapon which would require ammo it acts almost like one and has a s*** load of recoil and vibration spreading through all you ship.

If it was a solid projectile weapon then it wouldnt need that much energy now would it??
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
as far as i can remember from the FS techroom description of the maxim it saiod somethiong like even tough it is not a solid projectile weapon which would require ammo it acts almost like one and has a s*** load of recoil and vibration spreading through all you ship.

If it was a solid projectile weapon then it wouldnt need that much energy now would it??

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
Remember Prometheus-S cannons needed materials only in Sol / Nebula?
Different lasers and beams need different materials.

hi,
i believe that this materials was for the optical or the construction itsself are needed, not thats they materials are the source of power.

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
I have no idea that is just what i remembered from the tech description in FS2 about the maxim that it is not a solid projectile weapon ! Even so the amount of energy it eats up is ridiculous. The Kayser is more powerfull then the maxim since it can take out shields in a heart beat and i do not believe it uses that much energy. and it still does almost the same amount of hull damage as the maxim.

They needed the rare gasses for the Prometheus for it to work remember they had the prometheus r but it was a piece of junk since they did not have acces to the rare gasses from the nebula or SOL!
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
as far as i can remember from the FS techroom description of the maxim it saiod somethiong like even tough it is not a solid projectile weapon which would require ammo it acts almost like one and has a s*** load of recoil and vibration spreading through all you ship.

If it was a solid projectile weapon then it wouldnt need that much energy now would it??

A Maxim sounds and looks like a Railgun and a Railgun nowadays needs a minor nuclear reactor to power it.
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
oh for freack's sake so then if it saounds like a chicken and if it walks like a chicken then by all means it must be a chicken right?? Forget it i'm gooing to have a look in the FS2 techroom  and quote exactly from there!
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
Beams are probably cheaper in the long run. Considering how beams are equipped on almost every capital ship, it is safe to assume they don't require a constant supply of "rare gases". The logistical forces will not be able to supply bombs rapidly enough where beams require little or even no additional support. The Mjonior (gah, can't spell that) cannons are relatively small and show no signs of needing a large amount of gas or other supply. It can be safe to assume that beams probably do not require much or any support where bombs can pose a problem if the supply line is broken. Remember, capital ships are meant to be able to survive behind enemy lines. Fighters and bombers on the other hand, must rely on support and capital ships to return to.

 
Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
oh for freack's sake so then if it saounds like a chicken and if it walks like a chicken then by all means it must be a chicken right?? Forget it i'm gooing to have a look in the FS2 techroom  and quote exactly from there!

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The Maxim is a rapid-fire, extra-long-range (three kilometers!) anti-hull cannon. It is clearly designed for the purpose of making capital ships' lives miserable, allowing the player to destroy subsystems and even whole smaller capships with ease from beyond the range of return fire. It does produce some "shake" effect as it fires, degrading its accuracy somewhat. Because of its high rate of fire, despite its low shield damage it is also still mildly effective against shielded targets. Be aware though that this weapon is perhaps the biggest energy hog of them all, and will run you dry with mere seconds of sustained fire.


Because of its high rate of fire and long range, the Maxim may be the best bomb intercept weapon in the game.


Sorry dude.
A Rail gun is a gun that uses magnetic energy to accelerate a projectile to immense speeds.
if you have seen Halo 2, that huge MAC gun was a railgun that accelerated a projectile to 40%c.
They have railguns nowadays, but they require a LOT of power.
in Stargate: Atlantis, those fixed gun emplacements during the episode "Siege" were railguns.
Same with the secondary armaments of the Deadelus and Odyssey.
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
as far as i can remember from the FS techroom description of the maxim it saiod somethiong like even tough it is not a solid projectile weapon which would require ammo it acts almost like one and has a s*** load of recoil and vibration spreading through all you ship.

If it was a solid projectile weapon then it wouldnt need that much energy now would it??

A Maxim sounds and looks like a Railgun and a Railgun nowadays needs a minor nuclear reactor to power it.

It's not a railgun. It has a smoothbore barrel. It is clearly a coilgun. Now, the briefing classifies it as "technically an energy weapon", so we might want to take that with a grain of salt.
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
Remember Prometheus-S cannons needed materials only in Sol / Nebula?
Different lasers and beams need different materials.

hi,
i believe that this materials was for the optical or the construction itsself are needed, not thats they materials are the source of power.

Mehrpack

Argon, is needed for the Prometheus, If I am right, the gas miners don't only mine gas from nebulae but also from gas giants

 

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
Argon, is needed for the Prometheus, If I am right, the gas miners don't only mine gas from nebulae but also from gas giants

hi,
yop, imho they said it as you escort the miner to the colossus, that they collect fuel for the reactors of the colossus of gas giants.

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
It's not a railgun. It has a smoothbore barrel. It is clearly a coilgun. Now, the briefing classifies it as "technically an energy weapon", so we might want to take that with a grain of salt.

The game designers have no idea what they're talking about.
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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
No, they know, they just also know that most of their audience doesn't or doesn't care.

 

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Re: Command is quite stupid. Why do they even use Beams? So ineffective.
i thought the GTVA had fusion reactors that supply contant energy, and rarely need refilled with attoms (they work on the same priniple as a star, fusing atoms until they can fuse no more.)


The GTVA use fusion pile generators ;7



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