[Vasudan Admiral]

Not just for TI - this is intended for the media VPs to be used to display cockpit models instead of  the current "show ship" method (unless "show ship" is turned on for that particular ship).

The idea is that there be an in-game option for turning on visible cockpit models, and if that option is turned on, this POF will display as in the screens, and the HUD will switch to the one we're designing now.

It will definitely need a coders help there though.

Oh, and I expect I'll use it in some of TI's cutscenes though - that was one of the reasons I put a lot of effort into texturing the rest of the cockpit nicely.

[akenbosch]

can you remove those two sticks sticking out of the cockpits upper level? (i think it might be a HUD panel remnant)

[Vasudan Admiral]

No because they _are_ the hud panel frames - which is still going to be nessecary.

[akenbosch]

*marge grumble*

well, atleast theres no opaque black square in between them...

[Vasudan Admiral]

Currently there is that as well actually.

It'll become shiny glass for the final though.

[akenbosch]

i like the "displayed on visor" idea better...

buit then again, HUD panels are to me what cockpits are to snail

[Woolie Wool]

Not just for TI - this is intended for the media VPs to be used to display cockpit models instead of  the current "show ship" method (unless "show ship" is turned on for that particular ship).

The idea is that there be an in-game option for turning on visible cockpit models, and if that option is turned on, this POF will display as in the screens, and the HUD will switch to the one we're designing now.

This sounds like a pretty good idea, but you have to remember that FreeSpace ship cockpits have wildly varying shapes. What works for an Apollo might not work for an Erinyes or anything Aldo makes (all those struts...).

[Vasudan Admiral]

Oh crap - I'd completely forgotten about cockpit struts. :\

Errm, I'll have to work out how to get them working.

[Cobra]

I think that would require some creative coding or LUA scripting.

[Woolie Wool]

Oh crap - I'd completely forgotten about cockpit struts. :\

Errm, I'll have to work out how to get them working.

The only real solution I see is individualized cockpit models, as ships have cockpits of wildly differing sizes, and some that have  completely unorthodox shapes, like the Boanerges.

[Vasudan Admiral]

On some level it will have to be individualised, but creating custom cockpits like this one here is more work than building an entire HTL fighter, so doing this sorta thing on a per ship basis isn't the way to go about it.
Perhaps creating different ship cockpit frames on this cockpit model and having them as subobjects that either the game or a LUA script can control would work.

Ie, if the script detects that the ship is say, an Ursa, it hides all cockpit strut subobjects but the Ursa's. It would default to no struts.

[Woolie Wool]

The thing is, an Ursa's cockpit is taller, longer, and wider than an Apollo's, and the Apollo seems to be the main reference for FS cockpit design.

[TrashMan]

We could CUT half of the ETS system display...I mean, any particular reason why you got bars on BOTH sides of the G, S, E letters????

[MetalDestroyer]

Amazing dude !! I think in a near futur we could have 3D planets with the possibilities to travel into system to another like Independance War 2

[boewolf]

I was never a big fan of these type of cockpits...  But this one makes me think that yeah, I could use this.

[Cobra]

We could CUT half of the ETS system display...I mean, any particular reason why you got bars on BOTH sides of the G, S, E letters????

You realize it's on the top and bottom in the original HUD, yes?

[Snail]

Trash is weird.

[akenbosch]

why not just stick this cockpit model in all of the ships, with small mofications so it fits?

[TrashMan]

Cobra, Snail - are you high?

WTF are you on about? Shields, Weapons and Engines energy distribution is displayed on ONE place only...and the % bars go both ways. I was saying we can save space buy simply removing one way..there's no need for it..or do I need to make a pic to demonstrate this utterly simple principle?

[Topgun]

I like trash's idea.