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Offline aRaven

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here is the original ILM starship speed/maneuverability chart:



go figure! :P

 

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Yeah, I've seen that chart before, however it also must be noted that its a pre-production piece of work and is contradicted in several ways, including the movie itself.

By that chart, the Y-Wing is as fast and maneuverable as the X-Wing, yet more heavily shielded, armed and armoured.  If that were the case, why would they be replaced and retired?

Either way, new render

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And along with the WWII in space, momentum and intertia are definitely going to have to come into play.  Since these ships mostly lack maneuvering thrusters, and instead (supposedly) rely on gyro systems, their maneuverability is going to be heavily reliant on their overall mass.  So the larger ships are going to be like high speed bricks in space.  Even TIEs won't be able to turn on a dime, but they won't be as noticeable as the B-Wings.
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Yeah, I've seen that chart before, however it also must be noted that its a pre-production piece of work and is contradicted in several ways, including the movie itself.

By that chart, the Y-Wing is as fast and maneuverable as the X-Wing, yet more heavily shielded, armed and armoured.  If that were the case, why would they be replaced and retired?


if it were pre-production, why is the A-Wing and TIE Interceptor present? They were not designed beforce ROTJ.

The movies don't show them as maneuverable as X-Wings, the 3 steps for maneuverability is not sufficient to tell the agility of the ships

 

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Preproduction on ROTJ, its a stage of development in filming
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Well, I think I'm about ready to call the model done for now.

Oh, by the way, the droid's got a name, it's R5-K8

So, comments?

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And along with the WWII in space, momentum and intertia are definitely going to have to come into play.  Since these ships mostly lack maneuvering thrusters, and instead (supposedly) rely on gyro systems, their maneuverability is going to be heavily reliant on their overall mass.  So the larger ships are going to be like high speed bricks in space.  Even TIEs won't be able to turn on a dime, but they won't be as noticeable as the B-Wings.

It's etheric rudders (the physics scribe in me shudders in terror), according to the books at least.
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And the underside too!

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It's etheric rudders (the physics scribe in me shudders in terror), according to the books at least.

Oh yeah, the ether.  Sounds really familiar.
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
*R5-K8 beeps inquisitively*
"Sorry R5, you're not getting a texture yet."
*incoherent beeps whirs and whistles*
"Hell if I know, they always say 'when it's done,' so your guess is as good as mine"
*hopeful-sounding beeps, etc.*
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
*R5-K8 beeps inquisitively*
"Sorry R5, you're not getting a texture yet."
*incoherent beeps whirs and whistles*
"Hell if I know, they always say 'when it's done,' so your guess is as good as mine"
*hopeful-sounding beeps, etc.*
"... No, R5. Not tomorrow."


Today.

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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
Let's not forget that the Millenium Falcon held its own against TIE fighters... four of them!  Remember the corkscrew maneuver that Han pulled when he caused those 3 Star Destroyers to almost collide?

 

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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
Feedback on the mesh:

I like the way you built it; simplicity is good under certain circumstances. I see no unnecessary polies/greebles on it, yet it looks just as a Y-wing is supposed to look like. Good work on it.
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
Feedback on the mesh:

I like the way you built it; simplicity is good under certain circumstances. I see no unnecessary polies/greebles on it, yet it looks just as a Y-wing is supposed to look like. Good work on it.

I am inclined to agree, although I could see a bit more detail on the engines and frame.

 

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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
All of the detail on the engine pods is very fine, on the model it would be raised probably no more than a few centimeters each, and could probably best be done with texturing.  On the frame itself, I tried to put the most major details in, about the only thing missing is a few of the tubes, which I could add in, but would shoot the polycount way up.  On further inspection I think I might add them in and try to keep the polycount under 6k, but this thing's a monster on polies (rounded shapes plus greebles = ouch)
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
needs more pipes on the main body
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
cant we just do some table hacking so we can even kill an sd in a few hits?  :D

if not, ill just settle for same manueverability as ties.

and btw, they would still have a reason to retire it from the fighter role: the X has both bigger and more numerous guns. and if 2 torps can kill a DS, why would you need to have the Y loaded with them? you'ed get fragged so easy
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
Ok, you won't be killing Star Destroyers in a fighter.  And you need extra torps in case the first ones detonate on impact, as was shown.  Also, the X's did carry more than just 2 of them.  But why would you want to table hack anyway?  This game is going to be a work of art when it comes to the canonity and balance, why would you want to break that?  :)
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
I'm going to be doing a higher poly version of this model, after doing some research on the way FS handles polies and the like.  Probably going to add an addition 1 to 2 thousand more tris to it.
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Re: BTL Y-Wing (Model Complete, 09/26/07)
Okay, here we go, first wip of highpoly Y-Wing:

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