[asyikarea51]

You mean the EA doesn't use beam cannons a lot?

I could elaborate on my reasoning more and go banter about the Lucifer wreckage and how through this logic FS2 shouldn't have had beam cannons even though it should and I like them just fine and some other lame useless crap speech etc etc etc, but I'm not in the mood for it now (Naah, I'm not angry or whatever). (Don't read this. )


Rather I'm in the mood for unholy alliances AATTOT...

EA side: "CURSES! The EAD xxx is collaborating with the GTD yyy!!!"
GTA side: "The GTD yyy has turned on us! They're assisting the EAD xxx in zzz operations!"

[G0atmaster]

Sorry to come in rather in the middle of this, and not at the beginning, but I've got a couple questions.  I've only just started playing Inferno R1, and am by no means finished, but why are the EA fighting with the GTVA?  Why not welcome them home?

Also, I understand Earth had the Lucifer wreckage, captured shivans, the GTI, research facilities, and all that jazz, but the Sol system has 9 planets.  The entire GTVA minus Sol has HUNDREDS of planets.  How does the EA have the infrastructure to put together an army, no matter the tech level, to compare and put up a fight with the GTVA?  It seems to me that by resources alone the GTVA has EA beat.  What say you?

It would be nice to see a prequel to Inferno.  I'm sure the GTVA attempted diplomacy.  I can see why it wouldn't work with aliens, who have unknown means of communication (shivans) or an unknown culture (Vasudans), but cmon!  The EA is HUMAN.  I imagine they've had more than a few discussions about why the EA is killing the GTVA.  Has the EA gone the way of the Hammer of Light or something?  I'd like to find out.

[Snail]

The EA in R1 are "a hostile expansionist government hellbent on acquiring GTVA systems" (or something along those lines).

Well anyway, INFA2 should tell you more about the whole thing. Ask Woo.

[Dark Hunter]

Also, I understand Earth had the Lucifer wreckage, captured shivans, the GTI, research facilities, and all that jazz, but the Sol system has 9 planets.  The entire GTVA minus Sol has HUNDREDS of planets.  How does the EA have the infrastructure to put together an army, no matter the tech level, to compare and put up a fight with the GTVA?  It seems to me that by resources alone the GTVA has EA beat.  What say you?

I read somewhere (and I think it was a canon source actually, but for the life of me I can never remember where...), that the Terrans had only been exploring extra-solar space for about ten or twelve years before meeting the Vasudans. That means that Sol was cut off only twenty-five or so years after humanity began leaving it. That being said, it makes sense that a large number of the Terran populace would still be in Sol.

As for resources... you honestly believe that a starfleet and several space colonies would leave the entire Sol system (eight planets, the asteroid belt, the kuiper belt, etc.) drained of resources? I'd wager that Sol still has the vast majority of its resources intact by the EA war.
In the long run, the GTVA would win out of sheer numbers of resources, true, but this isn't Starcraft, where resources can dry up in thirty minutes of play. A war that left Sol drained of raw material would take centuries.

Also, there is a prequel, called Inferno: Alliance (1 & 2). 1 is released, 2 is not.

[Mobius]

You actually forget many, many things. I would like to mention Colony Wars for this one.

We all know that our planet, in a matter of decades, will no longer have enough resources to maintain its population. Space colonization is an obvious step ahead...

Other planets of the Solar system have a lot of resources that could be used, but I don't think that they can vanish in 300 or so years. Planets like Earth, however, have to rely continuosly on the other colonies.

The EA could fight against the GTVA because of many reasons. The EA is militaristic. What do you expect from an Alliance that came out from a war, everyone was preparing to? Colonies feared possible invasions and military research reached the top. The whole humans in Sol changed and became militaristic.

[Snail]

Another reason. Why would the Earth Alliance, who have fought many a civil war with many enemies for 66 years, with no outside help and no means of communication with the outside world, simply hand over authority to the GTVA? Sure, it would have been the favorable choice for some, but 66 years worth of fighting and bloodshed cannot amount to a peaceful handover to some outsiders, most (if not all) of which have never even set foot in Sol and only read about it in history books. The deaths of hundreds upon thousands suddenly become moot as you just peacefully hand over all that you have so painstakingly fought for during the past six and a half decades. I expect many would simply say, "No!"

And the EA was a militaristic government probably founded on the defense of Sol (originally only actually the defense of Earth & Mars), so most of its politicians would be quick to defend what they had fought over for so long.

And on a side note, Sol could not have possibly used up all its resources as they have the asteroid belt, Mars is rich in iron, there's quite enough on Earth anyway, etc etc.

[Mobius]

An Alliance with the GTVA would have compromised the influence of highly ranked EA officers.

Also, think about...something else.

People who live in Sol might hate the ones living in other colonies. They remained alone, they might have elaborated worrying theories about what has really happened...the truth about the Lucifer could have been buried. Someone could suspect that the GTA wanted Sol to be isolated(it's not probable...no one knows the consequences of the destruction of ships lying in subspace)or let the Lucifer visit Sol and deliver some punch.

We don't know

[Mad Bomber]

We all know that our planet, in a matter of decades, will no longer have enough resources to maintain its population. Space colonization is an obvious step ahead...

Other planets of the Solar system have a lot of resources that could be used, but I don't think that they can vanish in 300 or so years. Planets like Earth, however, have to rely continuosly on the other colonies.

Thank you.

At the risk of going off topic, I'm glad people are starting to realize the need for space colonization in the near term, and actually say it out loud.

[asyikarea51]

I can only hope that at least one pilot lives long enough to tell the tale and still keep flying.

Forgive me, I'm in a dreamy mood again.

[Hellstryker]

Hey im new to the forums but i <3 freespace and i cant wait for this mod to get done cuz freespace doesnt work on my new comp!!!

[Mobius]

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Welcome to the HLPBB, 41st!

[Hellstryker]

I know this may be called spam but ROFLMFAO 

[Snail]

Oh, no, it's not spam as long as it's not Snail-Eat-Bunny related.

[Mobius]

Welcoming a new member is SPAM? Meh, it's a cool moment...for both the Welcomer and the Welcomed

[Hellstryker]

No, I was saying my reply may be called spam.

[Dark Hunter]

In HLP's forums, and especially in the Inferno Night Cafe, we get a lot of off-topic posts. Expect it. 

[terran_emperor]

Woot! Loved that welcome.

I agree with the near term reasons for colonisation.
Who ever it was who said it was right. When the Lucifer was destroy, mankind had only been exploring space for about 16.5-17 years. Id say that about 2/3s of HTAs resources were in Sol at the time - thats what caused the post-war depression in the GTVA systems. Victory in a war between the GTVA and EA could only be one by either a Sudden Death opperation, or a War of Attrition that lasts Decades if not centuaries (like in Colony Wars).
As for Beam WeaponaryIn FS: The Great War & Silent Threat, only the Lucifer and Hades had beam weapons: The EA has the Lucy's remains and could probaly have developed beam weapons from them and also from any siezed GTI documents in Sol.

The Hades had beam turrets from GTI's long studies of Shivan tech. My postulation is that the Hades destroyed was the prototype and that they had plans to build a whole fleet.
I mean:
Q) what is more deadly than a single Lucifer?
A) a whole Fleet of them
 Note: This ignores all later ships like Colossus, Sathanas, Gigas , etc...

The GTVA most likely developed beam cannons from the Hades' wreckage and GTI's research notes. So in Theory both sides should have Beam Weapons.

Also No offence to any Americans reading this:
The EA can be compared to the USA of present. USA was i colony that separated from the BE, Sol was separated from GTA/GTVA (I know Sol is GTA home system, but Just bear with me). After years of fighting (Civil war, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Both Gulf Wars, Afganistan, and several others Im sure), America has become a Veritable Empire in all but name, just like the EA. And just like the EA would refuse to give up that power.
I say again, No offence to any americans who read this IT'S JUST AN ANALOGY

But in other news, what is INF SCP's Current Status and that of INFA 2

[Snail]

But in other news, what is INF SCP's Current Status and that of INFA 2

Inferno Alliance Standalone "2350" is about 40-60% finished I would guess. Inferno Alliance Standalone "2360" (date unconfirmed) is stagnant and is waiting for INFASA1 to be finished. It's still in planning phases and most of the original stuff has been dumped and replaced. INFASA1 will probably include The Hammer Falls, LGM's anti-HOL campaign, and maybe some other campaigns.

The EA has the Lucy's remains and could probaly have developed beam weapons from them and also from any siezed GTI documents in Sol.

You'll find out more about that in INFA2... The Jovians actually had more to do with it than you think.

[Dark Hunter]

INFASA1 will probably include The Hammer Falls, LGM's anti-HOL campaign, and maybe some other campaigns.

What's an ITDOH campaign doing in there?

[Woomeister]

The name of that one hasn't been changed yet