[karajorma]

"That's NOT an installation! Disable the engines of that warship! Do not let them escape!"

"There's no time, Command! The vessel is powering up its subspace drive."

Seems pretty black and white to me.

[psycho_fergo]

see, then something i dont get, is, why is momentum totally ignored in FS?  shouldnt, if your engines are disabled while your fleeing for your life, you keep moving through space??? therefore having velocity..and if you can open a subspace vortex, then just kind of float through?

its as if the ships have an automatice reverse thrust...cause you shut off ur engines and u slow down..whats with that? also, if i designed a fighter, i would have a few extra jets. we seem to be able to turn pretty fast while still right... and do barrel rolls. i would make it so i had a bit of lateral movement....able to kind of strafe..

i dunno. there are of issues with the basic laws of physics in FS...dunno if anything can be done about them..just, it doesnt matter how advanced you get, the laws of physics dont change..(well most anyway..lol)

[colecampbell666]

As has been said before, FS2 is about gameplay, not Isaac Newton.

[Snail]

That's not what I meant. The Rampart, an Aeolus-class cruiser, flies straight at the node while blasting flak at Shivans, proceeds through it after all Shivans have been killed, and only when it is clear on the other side does it occur to the captain to turn around.

It's the Stalwart actually, and I don't see anything too wrong with going a certain distance before turning around. Perhaps he was doing a 'sweep' of the area. But the other parts of the mission were really quite freaked up.

[Agent_Koopa]

It's the Stalwart actually, and I don't see anything too wrong with going a certain distance before turning around. Perhaps he was doing a 'sweep' of the area. But the other parts of the mission were really quite freaked up.

Oh, right. Right. That. Ah. Gotcha.

Anyways, no Shivans can warp in from the other side, can they? And if they happen to jump in while you're still on the other side, you can't very well shoot flak through your engines now can you?

[Hades]

You can if there is a geometry error.

[Desert Tyrant]

see, then something i dont get, is, why is momentum totally ignored in FS?  shouldnt, if your engines are disabled while your fleeing for your life, you keep moving through space??? therefore having velocity..and if you can open a subspace vortex, then just kind of float through?

its as if the ships have an automatice reverse thrust...cause you shut off ur engines and u slow down..whats with that? also, if i designed a fighter, i would have a few extra jets. we seem to be able to turn pretty fast while still right... and do barrel rolls. i would make it so i had a bit of lateral movement....able to kind of strafe..

i dunno. there are of issues with the basic laws of physics in FS...dunno if anything can be done about them..just, it doesnt matter how advanced you get, the laws of physics dont change..(well most anyway..lol)

Yeah, but the problem is that once they jump back through they're pretty far up **** creek unless they manage to jump where there is escorting fighters or cruisers.

As has been said before, FS2 is about gameplay, not Isaac Newton.

Well, **** son, I didn't know THAT!  What's next, are you going to tell me that the sky is in fact blue?  (Although you could rationalise that FS-verse ships do in fact operate under newtonian physics outside of gameplay.  Like, you know... reality.)

[colecampbell666]

Geez...

[Snail]

I find that comment rather inflammatory after you went rambling on about newtonian physics.

[admiral_wolf]

Whenever I play the Collosus mission, it is never disabled before the Sathantas unlesses all hell, doom and destruction on it.

[TrashMan]

Yet another person who fails to understand that the Colossus was disabled and couldn't jump out if it wanted to anyway.

We all know that [V] disabled the Colosuss in the last second since the missions waypoing and hte big C's axis were fubar. It's not supposed ot be disabled. The communication confirms it.

"Get out of there Colosuss!"   - why would they say that if hte ship was disabled? Makes no sense
"Negative command, We'll hold em here..."  - like you have a choice! DUH!

Wasn't there also a line like "Engange your jump drives NOW!" ??'

[Agent_Koopa]

Yet another person who fails to understand that the Colossus was disabled and couldn't jump out if it wanted to anyway.

We all know that [V] disabled the Colosuss in the last second since the missions waypoing and hte big C's axis were fubar. It's not supposed ot be disabled. The communication confirms it.

"Get out of there Colosuss!"   - why would they say that if hte ship was disabled? Makes no sense
"Negative command, We'll hold em here..."  - like you have a choice! DUH!

Wasn't there also a line like "Engange your jump drives NOW!" ??'

I think we've covered that.

[Desert Tyrant]

I find that comment rather inflammatory after you went rambling on about newtonian physics.

Who are you referring to with this statement, me or Cole?

[colecampbell666]

I don't think it's me as I don't go rambling on about Newtonian Physics.

[Snail]

I find that comment rather inflammatory after you went rambling on about newtonian physics.

Who are you referring to with this statement, me or Cole?

You. Damn tyrants, always messing up regional politics.

[Grogs]

I dont go off on tangents, I go off on cosines!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry, but that was kind of a lame math joke....
secants might have been better...

[Excalibur]

Yet another person who fails to understand that the Colossus was disabled and couldn't jump out if it wanted to anyway.

We all know that [V] disabled the Colosuss in the last second since the missions waypoing and hte big C's axis were fubar. It's not supposed ot be disabled. The communication confirms it.

"Get out of there Colosuss!"   - why would they say that if hte ship was disabled? Makes no sense
"Negative command, We'll hold em here..."  - like you have a choice! DUH!

Wasn't there also a line like "Engange your jump drives NOW!" ??'

    Command:   You MUST get back to the Vega node and engage your jump drives NOW!!!,    Last mission, supernova,  after the Colossus got destroyed.

Debriefing after the destruction of the Colossus:   "The Colossus has been destroyed..."

What! I didn't see it blow up!

[ssmit132]

What are you on about???

[Jeff Vader]

Yet another person who fails to understand that the Colossus was disabled and couldn't jump out if it wanted to anyway.

We all know that [V] disabled the Colosuss in the last second since the missions waypoing and hte big C's axis were fubar. It's not supposed ot be disabled. The communication confirms it.

"Get out of there Colosuss!"   - why would they say that if hte ship was disabled? Makes no sense
"Negative command, We'll hold em here..."  - like you have a choice! DUH!

Wasn't there also a line like "Engange your jump drives NOW!" ??'

    Command:   You MUST get back to the Vega node and engage your jump drives NOW!!!,    Last mission, supernova,  after the Colossus got destroyed.

Debriefing after the destruction of the Colossus:   "The Colossus has been destroyed..."

What! I didn't see it blow up!

There be some similar lines along the campaign.

Command: "Colossus, we're pulling you out. Engage your subspace drive."
Command: "Follow your orders, Colossus! Jump out of there now!"
Colossus: "Negative, Command.  We'll hold them off here. Just get the Bastion through!"

[Hades]

The Colossus wouldn't have died if I was one of the BGreen gunners.