[NGTM-1R]

I wouldn't see 4 more years of Republican rule as dooming the country, so long as we get a moderate Republican.

Remember the last time we elected a self proclaimed "moderate republican" president? That's how we got into this mess to begin with.

Key phrase: self-proclaimed.

[Kosh]

On the other hand while being governer of texas he actually was a moderate by many people's accounts.

[Mefustae]

On the other hand while being governer of texas he actually was a moderate by many people's accounts.

Yes, but most of those people were Texans.

[Kosh]

Even people outside of Texas looked at what he was doing and thought he was a moderate. There were many complaints that he was not "conservative enough" for the Republican party to be president.

[Rictor]

Let me just go on record and say that Ron Paul is as of now the only politician I have ever liked. It's usually a contest between the best of the worst, the one I least dislike, but the good doctor is something else. For privacy, free speech and civil liberties, against interventionism and empire (at a time when the only real debate between the parties is how to run the empire) and torture, for guns, against taxes and for extreme decentralization. What's not to like?

Viva la Revolution!

[Mr. Vega]

The only politician? What about Kucinich?

[Mefustae]

Kucinich?! What about Colbert!

[Rictor]

OK fine: Kucinich and Gravel too. But much as I'd like to believe otherwise, they're not as viable as Ron Paul. Which says quite a bit about the state of the Democratic party, when they're shunning their anti-war candidates more than the GOP. Also, I don't jive with Kucinich on a few issues, though he's clearly miles better than any other Democratic candidate and a decent man to boot.

Next up: the Tea Party '07 on December the 16th. Another huge money-bomb is the Paulites have anything to say about it. I can't donate because I'm not American, but I hope it goes well.

[Goober5000]

Hear hear!

[achtung]

Too bad Ron gets dramatically less air time than Guliani, Clinton, Obama, etc.

Too bad he stands in a position against true separation of church and state.

[Koth]

That's all I say.

[Rictor]

What's Mr.Cthulhu's stance on abortion? And the 2nd Amendment? What about allegations of gay bathroom toe-tapping? I simply can't vote for a candidate I don't trust to protect real conservative values.

[MP-Ryan]

Can I point out that while Ron Paul's stance on the Middle East is fantastic, he also has some kooky views on globalization and international relations?

The man is one of the first candidates for the US Presidency in the past 100 years to actually have a brain when it comes to foreign policy (and the first person who brings up Reagan to try to counteract this point is going to get beaten over the head with a little twentieth-century history ), but he's also rather odd.

That said, not a single one of the current candidates can be worse than the current moron in the White House, Mr. Let's-encourage-stability-in-the-Middle-East-by-invading-a-"country"-(Iraq was never a country, it's 3 regions of three separate countries that were excluded when the borders got drawn up)-that-is-already-poised-for-massive-civil-war.  *head shaking*

[Kosh]

Ron Paul was also on the Alex Jones show (who is a major conspiracy theorist, you know the new world order is out to get you kind of stuff) once, and it sounded like they agreed on a lot of things. I'm not sure, but I think it's still on youtube.

[achtung]

I, myself, support a North American Union.

[Kosh]

That would be one way to deal with illegal immigrants: legalize them.

[Edward Bradshaw]

Ron Paul was also on the Alex Jones show (who is a major conspiracy theorist, you know the new world order is out to get you kind of stuff) once, and it sounded like they agreed on a lot of things. I'm not sure, but I think it's still on youtube.

Yea except Jones didnt bring up a lot of his more contraversial beliefs.

[achtung]

That would be one way to deal with illegal immigrants: legalize them.

I'd rather see taxpayer money go to that over seeing it go to pitiful attempts at securing hundreds of miles of desert.

[Rictor]

Ron Paul was also on the Alex Jones show (who is a major conspiracy theorist, you know the new world order is out to get you kind of stuff) once, and it sounded like they agreed on a lot of things. I'm not sure, but I think it's still on youtube.

Him appearing on Alex Jones does not imply that he agrees with all of the interviewer's positions, any more than Jon Stewart interviewing Musharraf can be taken as proof of Stewart's support for military dictatorship. Guilty by association, eh?

I'm happy to debate any specific points, but "Ron Paul is a crazy racist 9/11 NWO conspiracy theorist" ain't gonna cut it. Leave my boy alone

[achtung]

Ron Paul opposes separation of Church and State.

Debate that one with me.