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Re: New Ship WIP - The Hand
Of course that doesn't mean they didn't have beam weapons that was just the one they decided to use.  Remember they were only trying to cripple the Valen and Liandra so they could rescue that ambassador.  They may have possessed much greater firepower and were holding back.
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@Vidmaster: Not exactly  ;7
I said: "hey you two, now you can see again how small the world is"

I never saw: "Legend of the Raiders" I would love to see this ships in action, they look powerful *G*
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Didn't they have an explosive projectile weapon as well?  Or was that the Liandra?  I only saw the movie twice.
Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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They had that mine field but I don't remember missiles.  If I get time I'll scan through the battle scenes.
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Re: New Ship WIP - The Hand
Just scanned through a couple of the fight scenes.  Looks like no missiles just 2 types of blob weapons.  First one is a green, rapid fire, energy ball.  Second is a bluish green, long charge, slow fire,  heavy damage energy ball.  The first one was used ship to ship.  The second was used to destroy the colony on the planet in one shot.  Looked like the second one curved a bit so it may have been guided like a missile or it could have just been a planetary gravity effect. 

First pic is the green, rapid fire.  Second is the heavy one charing and third is it after firing. 

Again this doesn't mean they didn't have other types of weapons.  There was that mine field that was launched like a missile so a missile launcher is possible.

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Remembered one more detail on the green energy ball.  It could be destroyed by shooting it; although I only saw one instance of this.
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Interesting.  Well, I just need to finish getting all the stuff I need to finish this guy up.  (and to read the essential tutorials to get this in-game of course).
Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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So, it's been a while since I last posted in this thread and wanted to bump it with a small, but nevertheless, important update as I have the graphics for weapons created.

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Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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"Alpha 9 to Babylon Control..... we've picked up what looks to be a ship of some kind."

"This is Babylon Control, Alpha 9.  Can you get a read on the ship's status?"

"That's a negative, Control.  There doesn't appear to be any power readings that I can detect, nor any life signs.  The ship is just kind of dormant."

"Okay Alpha 9, we're going to be sending a boarding team over there to investigate.  Stay there and wait for further instructions when the shuttle gets there."

"Roger that, Babylon Control, Alpha 9 out".


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Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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Re: New Ship WIP - The Hand
To help Alpha 9 and Babylon Control find out what this strange new craft, help maje unlock the secrets of getting the pof converter for 3D Studio Max to work so he can find out just what the hell he's doing as he's a hapless noob who's stuck in the mud,   :confused::( which can found here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52073.0.html ;7
Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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That's very beautiful work. Sorry I am unable to help with the max conversion.
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To help Alpha 9 and Babylon Control find out what this strange new craft, help maje unlock the secrets of getting the pof converter for 3D Studio Max to work so he can find out just what the hell he's doing as he's a hapless noob who's stuck in the mud,   :confused::( which can found here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,52073.0.html ;7

You'll probably have to convert it to cob or another format, what with all the problems with the max converter.
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One thing I do know is that would be a spectacularly bad idea.
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Okay, is there any good reason why my .eff file doesn't work in terms of playing the texture animation.

My textures are set correctly in that they're labled handa_0000.dds through handa_0019.dds and the eff file is essentially renamed handa.eff.  The inside of the .eff file is exactly the same as the shadowa.eff.

Is there a special directory this all needs to be in?  Currently it's in C:\Program Files\The Babylon Project\data\maps, as I've extracted the textures to that directory from the Core.vp.
Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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You can't just rename a file and expect it to work...

 

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I'm not sure I follow.  All you need to have is:

$Type: DDS
$Frames: 20
$FPS: 30

There's nothing else in the shadowa.eff file.  The texture images themselves need to match the sequence name of the .eff (hence shadowa_0000, shadowa_0001, shadowa_0002, etc.)

All I did was change shadowa.eff to handa.eff so that handa_0000, handa_0001, etc. would play in sequence.

Should that not work?
Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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Does a single texture called handa.dds work if you remove the eff file?
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I don't have a single texture called handa.dds  I don't recall any mention of this being made in the wiki discussing animated textures via *.eff section.  And just so it's clear, in 3DS Max, I imported the textures as a file sequence starting as handa_0001.dds and ending at handa_0019.dds.

Interestingly enough, when I copied, pasted, and edited the handa_0001.dds to handa.dds, something got fubared as I could no longer see my model (though the original handa_0001.dds was still in the same directory and I DID remove handa.eff).

When I took that file out and reinserted the eff file, my model still wouldn't render for whatever reason, and thus I trashed the texture files, then pasted my backups from another directory and my model rendered in-game.

The only thing I can think of is that apparently I need to create a file called handa.dds that will be attached to the model in Max, THEN export and bring my animation sequence into the maps folder with the eff file.

Also, something to note, does it matter if my textures that are being used for the animation sequence are color maps, or should they be gray scale? 

I ask this because when looking at the textures for the Shadow vessels, I notice that the files used for the animation sequence are in gray scale yet the file, SHADOW-01a.dds is a color map.
Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.

 

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You don't need to do that to make it work but when an animation doesn't work the most sensible thing to do is to replace it with a static texture you are 100% will work so as to figure out where the problem lies.
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Re: New Ship WIP - The Hand
okay.  Well I know that the first texture works.  It's not so much that I'm not getting anything at all as it's that nothing is moving, and I have tried playing around with frame rates, but alas, I get nothing.
Deuternomy 22:11 explained:

Well there are many different speculations going on about this law about not mixing fibers and at least one explanation claims that it was a symbolic gesture designed to keep a pure sense of culture, people, and religion.  Seperation of crop  in the vinyard, mentioned in Dt. 22:9 and 22:10 seem to reaffirm this idea, though there may be other reasons as well.

And now, an excerpt from the Prayer of Mordecai, the Book of Esther Chapter C (New American Bible Official Catholic version).

Est C:5  You know all things.  You know, O Lord, that it was not out of insolence or pride or desire for fame that I acted thus in not bowing down to the proud Haman.  6  Gladly would I have kissed the soles of his feet for the salvation of Israel.  7  But I acted as I did so as not to place the honor of man above that of God.  I will not bow down to anyone but you, my Lord.  It is not out of pride that I am acting thus.