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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Quote from: Eve of Destruction Briefing
You will be on watch with one other ship, Alpha 2.  Since this is your first watch, Alpha 2 will be piloted by Lt. Harbison, a seasoned veteran and top-notch pilot.
Hmm.

Quote from: sm1-01a.fs2
$Notes:
I am the lizard king.
:wtf:
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Ah, in this case.

BTW: You stand no chance, for I am the SCORPION KING!
And this ain't no ****. But don't quote me for that one. - Mika

I shall rrreach worrrld domination!

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Seriously. I went back to the top of the mission file in Notepad to check the name of the mission. And I notice that part. What the hell? Is this FS1 humour or Port humour? I'm gonna go through the rest of the missions now.

Edit: K, there are more weird things in the $Notes sections, so I'll just list them here:

btm-02.fs2: "I've got your basic training RIGHT HERE, baby!"

mdu-05.fs2:
This is a FRED created mission.
Really? I thought it was a BOB created mission.
No, I'm pretty sure it's a FRED created mission.
Hmm, I could have sworn it was BOB.  Oh well.

sm1-04a.fs2: "I am the god of beer and fire!"

SM1-07a.fs2: "This is a FRED created mission, and don't you forget it, baby!  :)"

sm3-06a.fs2: "Sometimes I feel like a nut."
« Last Edit: December 22, 2007, 04:13:58 pm by Lobo »
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Those quotes look like something that Axem would make in his JAD series. I think they're just humor from the original developers.

 

Offline Flaser

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
:v: mistake.  Probably to make it easier to create the game.

If FS was more true to life, Admiral Petrarch would be based on 3rd Fleet HQ.  He would give orders to the various ships within the fleet.  The person in charge of the Aquitaine would be a Captain (or perhaps a Commodore, since it's the flagship).  The ubiquitous "Allied Command" would probably be a communications officer aboard the Aquitaine.  Whenever the player changed ships, therefore, the person playing the role of Command would also change -- which means that during the Vasudan missions, Command would probably be a Vasudan.  Under no circumstances would Command give orders to anyone not associated with the Aquitaine -- especially not the Colossus. :p

Actually that's not so stupid.
What really sets up the confusion IMHO is that we assume, that the person in command of a ship has to be a Captain. Another thing is, that we assume that pilots are the "grunts" of space warfare.

Neither thing could be further from the truth.

On a typical destroyer also acting as a carrier to keep the ship flying you need dozens of maintenance personal, ordenance, avionics experts, probably even phsysicists to keep the subspace engines in operation. These are probably all warrant officers. Beyond them you have marines on board, the actual hands to operate the ship - damage control parties, tech ratings, weapon and sensor operators, handyman to move equipment, and so on and so on...

Thousands of people.

....and a handful (a couple of hundred) true officers. The pilots belong to the later, heck, most of them are lieutenants.

On your average cruiser, the command staff would be mostly made up off lieutenants.
The thousands of cruisers are probably commanded by Captains and Commodore. Given their scarcity Corvettes are likely reserved for the better personal, and therefore are commanded by Commodores exclusively.

Destroyers though are another breed. They are the core of the fleet, what you'd call the "line" in the age of sail. You put your senior officers in charge of that. Given that a destroyer is the heart of most battle-groups you're likely to find an Admiral on-board.

This isn't Earth people! You can't micro-manage your fleets from your arm-chair. You need officers on-site, to make on-site decisions. You likely have system commanders who implement the orders of the chief of naval operations. The later is probably only possible with a relay-network between jump-points that allows light-speed communication between systems.

All of these officers could be what the game addresses as "Command".

One more thing: Admirals usually only give you "command" briefing.
Actual brifings though are held by the CAG.
"I was going to become a speed dealer. If one stupid fairytale turns out to be total nonsense, what does the young man do? If you answered, “Wake up and face reality,” you don’t remember what it was like being a young man. You just go to the next entry in the catalogue of lies you can use to destroy your life." - John Dolan

 

Offline admiral_wolf

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Why not communicate with me directly?
I reject your reality and substitute my own, hence my existance on the Galatea!

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Who the **** is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
That wouldn't be nearly as fun, now would it?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline Snail

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Why not communicate with me directly?

'Cause you're dead.

 

Offline Flaser

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Because the Admiral has to keep the whole battle in mind, coordinate all the ships on the battlefront, he also has to order what the reserve fighters should be refitted with, what weapons to use on what ships; plot manuevers....he already has his hands full.

Recommended reading:
Anything from David Weber (Honoverse, Starfire etc.)
"I was going to become a speed dealer. If one stupid fairytale turns out to be total nonsense, what does the young man do? If you answered, “Wake up and face reality,” you don’t remember what it was like being a young man. You just go to the next entry in the catalogue of lies you can use to destroy your life." - John Dolan

 

Offline admiral_wolf

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Why not communicate with me directly?

'Cause you're dead.

Technically, I died in 2335, so I have over 300 years left.

Going back to the subject, at no point in the game do I announce myslef as Admiral Wolf.  The first point in which pilots learn my name is when Ad. Shima reads out my "Obituary" after the Galatea is destroyed.  So it seems to me, that it is just speculation that I give mission briefings to all pilots.

If we had the Taranis mission briefing video, we'd be able to see if it was myself or Polpolion giving the mission briefing.  I have theories for both sides of the arguement.  Either Volition wre trying to save time and cut corners by reusing a previous model for the briefing in the hope no-one would be that eagle-eyed to notice the mistake.  However, with Admirals being concerned with their destroyers/cruisers well-being, I can't see them taking the time to deliver mission briefings to all flight crew such as with Petrach where he delivered briefings to only squadron leaders for the leaders to pass on the objectives relevant to their squadron.

However, where does this leave Shima?  My theory on her is that she made Alpha One a squad leader.  For after all, does she not say:

Quote from: Admiral Shima

For this reason, I am assigning Alpha One to lead these missions

So therefore, I am of the opinion that this matter in inconclusive, unless someone can get a clear screenshot of the mission briefing cutscene of the briefers nametag.
I reject your reality and substitute my own, hence my existance on the Galatea!

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Who the **** is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
If we had the Taranis mission briefing video, we'd be able to see if it was myself or Polpolion giving the mission briefing.
Hmm. Maybe you were busy leading the ship or something, and Mr. Polpolion was covering for you on the briefing.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline admiral_wolf

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Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
I must have been in the athletics department or on lunch at the time.  Thanks for clearing that up.
I reject your reality and substitute my own, hence my existance on the Galatea!

 
Re: Who is Admiral Wolf? I'm confused
Hmm, right. 'Nuff said then, I suppose.  :)