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Offline Tyrian

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I played WoW for about 6 months.  It's actually fairly fun until you get a character to lvl 60 (I never got the expansion).  Then it just gets repetitive, as you can only go to the same places over and over again.  What was really entertaining for me was the ability to see the "world" of WarCraft from the eyes of a guy on the ground, instead of the God's eye view in the strategy games.  Plus, I like to explore and just poke around the environment.

Also, I know that many people say that the monthly fees are expensive.  I actually crunched the numbers of playing 1 month of WoW versus renting a PS2 game every week for 4 weeks.  Renting the PS2 game comes to about $25 per month, plus tax.  Playing WoW for a month on the most expensive pay plan is $15 per month, plus tax.  So that I could play WoW, I stopped renting games.  (It was a slow time for good console releases anyways.)  I actually ended up saving about $10 per month.
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Offline Dark RevenantX

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The problem is that you have the option of buying a PS2 game rather than renting.  You are required to pay monthly in WoW, so the year plan of roughly 150$ if I'm not mistaken is about the price of ****ing Rock Band.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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I wonder how many people here who hate WoW have actually played it...

My best experiences in that game can be summed up by destroying both it and a crappy microwave at the same time for the Emperor Palpatine lightning effect.
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Offline Raven2001

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I wonder how many people here who hate WoW have actually played it...

Actually I have, although I never bought an account. However like I mentioned I know some people who play WoW, so I was able to play some hours of it trough those guys accounts, when they were on "player recruit drives" :P
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Offline TopAce

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...A players sole purpose in that game is to simply level up your character. After you have max level theres not much to do...

Actually, WoW starts after you have leveled your character to max. Then you can max out your professions, help your guildmates with their quests, play the Battlegrounds, visit instances and collect the best possible equipment, defend your capital from the other factions' attacks. The list can go nearly indefinitely.

Most of my level 70 characters like doing all that I listed.
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Offline Raven2001

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I've heard that one before as well, so ok fair enough...
In that case it gets even worse... because in that case its the same as in a fast lvl up MMO... only the game only starts after what? 2 weeks of play? 3? 1 Month? I clearly have no idea of how long it took you to get just one of those characters to level 70. As oposed to few hours of play in a non grind MMO...

That makes WoW even worse in my eyes.
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Offline colecampbell666

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Looking at how half of the BWO team plays or has played WoW I'm getting uncertain about how good the campaign will be... :nervous:
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I did play WoW, and for god's sake, I TRIED to like it with all my heart, but the extremely repetive gameplay and the (normally that's no matter for me, but combined with the prior) antiquated graphics got me off every 30-40 minutes. I heard WotLK is going to add more player controlled- and created content, but for me, WoW already died.
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Offline Raven2001

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Looking at how half of the BWO team plays or has played WoW I'm getting uncertain about how good the campaign will be... :nervous:

Yes we did play... but only a little. Just enough to study what makes a bad game :D
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Offline Asuko

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Also, blizzard can kiss my ass and come with their "your paying for server maintenance and regular updates" cock and bull story, and I wont buy it.
I dont play fees, and I have my server maintenance (in fact I dont have half the problems of the WoW players I know) AND I have my regular updates. For the bigger updates I can buy my access to them or not... just in the same way the WoW players pay for their expansions.
Blizzard actually does that? Damn, that's pretty crappy.
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Looking at how half of the BWO team plays or has played WoW I'm getting uncertain about how good the campaign will be... :nervous:

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Offline Raven2001

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Not to mention you have to do Golgothas dungeon in order to get the rare Erynies stead.
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Offline colecampbell666

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Offline TopAce

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I've heard that one before as well, so ok fair enough...
In that case it gets even worse... because in that case its the same as in a fast lvl up MMO... only the game only starts after what? 2 weeks of play? 3? 1 Month?...

It depends on how much time you spend playing a day. Most of my guildmates reached the level cap in a month, and none of them played 24/7. If you spend like 4-5 hours a day leveling (which does not only mean grinding!), that is a reasonable achievement. That's no that much time. As for MMOs where you reach the level cap after some hours or days... that's simply not a challenge.
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Offline Raven2001

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On the contrary... its not a challenge getting to the high level granted... after that is when the game really starts. Only you dont spend a month starting the game (assuming of course you play those 4-5 hours a day).
And really... tell me wheres the challenge in grinding or doing simpleton quests? And wheres the challenge of the PvP ive seen in WoW where people basically are spamming skills and hope they have a better skillset? The only challenge I can see in WoW is a challenge to ones patience.

On the fast levelling MMOs the challenge lies in doing the elite stuff (talking of both pve and pvp here), which requires skill over character level. And yes, PvE on those games is a challenge.
I can consider myself a pretty seasoned Guild Wars player, I have 9 level 20 characters (which is the max level there), and when I had time to play games, I leveled my characters in about 30\ hours... 3-4 days. And those were the boring ones: doing the missions I already knew, hearing the same story again, etc.
Being able to level them fast allowed me to try out the various play styles there is in the game, learn them to the point of perfection (I havent reached that point, but its the goal), try various team builds, various tactics etc etc. All this in PvE.
And guess what, I play that game for 2 and a half years now, half of those I played about 10 hours a day. Im a good player skill wise, and there are still areas that me and my regular group cant complete... and it isnt because of our level, but because of our play skill. 2 and half years later, with fast levelling, and I havent ran out of things to do in the game.

That is the real challenge those games have to offer, and they dont need to hide their lack of content (and I mean worthy content) behind a slow character progression.
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Offline colecampbell666

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Why would you play any video game for 4-5 hours a day?
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Offline redsniper

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How could you play any game for 4-5 hours a day? Do you not have job or school, or do you just stay up THAT late? :wtf:
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Why would you play any video game for 4-5 hours a day?

Normally, because it's good. That is not the case for anything I've seen mentioned here yet.

4-5 hours is reasonable for, say, EVE, because you don't have to pay 100% attention to it at all times. 's not the case with most MMOs.
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Offline Raven2001

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How could you play any game for 4-5 hours a day? Do you not have job or school, or do you just stay up THAT late? :wtf:

From my part, Im taking design at the university. I work on projects about 8-9 hours a day, and play 1 hour a day... I sleep about 6 hours a night :P

However there was a time I didnt have to spend time on school projects so I manage to play alot (and I mewan ALOT) of hours a day. Good old times :D


Normally, because it's good. That is not the case for anything I've seen mentioned here yet.

4-5 hours is reasonable for, say, EVE, because you don't have to pay 100% attention to it at all times. 's not the case with most MMOs.

Unfortunatly I cant say I played EVE... mostly because it suffers from the syndrome "pay to play" from what Ive read.
However your wrong that you have to pay full attention on all MMO's. Many times Im playing while at the same time browsing the internet, doing sketches, etc.

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Offline TopAce

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...And wheres the challenge of the PvP ive seen in WoW where people basically are spamming skills and hope they have a better skillset?...

WoW PvP is very skill dependent. Not "skill" like "character ability," but "skill" like dexterity and knowing your class, your opponent's class, and being able to exploit his mistakes, or use your skillset creatively.
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