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Just wondering  . . . . one sort of obstacle I think for drawing in new players is that many new campaigns require the person to own FS2. Now, if someone wanted to create a MOD which did not require FS2 what exactly would be required? Basically everything except the code??? So . . . new ships, sounds, music, interface, head_anis, HUD, and all that other stuff????


 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Basically the things that have been done on TBP, BTRL and so forth.
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14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
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      But . . for download purposes, are the MediaVPs for example considered non-legal for distribution? Or does it not qualify because most everything's been redone. Not sure if Interplay would hold the rights to the images, or the models/textures themselves.

      It's a bit of a hurdle, that's all, to introduce new players, if they'd have to download some ripped copy of FS2 first before they could play a new MOD.

       So just wondering if a person distributes a self-contained MOD/installer what would have to be omitted to be considered legally legit sorta thing.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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I'd deem everything in MediaVPs as non-retail FS2 material. Which would make it perfectly legal to distribute them. And, as we concurred, the game engine is open source so nothing wrong in distributing it either. The interface, on the other hand, should be redone, if one wants to legally share it with others.

But I don't see what's the point in this whole mess. Turey's Installer already provides a... *cough* "copy for a friend", so that a new player can get everything necessary with one installer. And even if it's a bit "wrong", we just need to be like "Shh" 'n stuff, so that Interplay won't get too mad and start suing people.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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I still think the interface should be redone in a more generic Windows-based fashion, like Half Life 2's thing. That way, multiple mods can be standalone without having to redo zillions of files.

 
plus, the thing that made this all get started, that little thing in the copywrite.  It says something like "you may make copies of this disc for your friends". I think there's a picture that highlights that key part.
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plus, the thing that made this all get started, that little thing in the copywrite.  It says something like "you may make copies of this disc for your friends". I think there's a picture that highlights that key part.


         Yeah, well . . . there's a stickied thread around here that talks about the EULA (End User License Agreement). Regardless, if I were to ever release a major MOD like that I'd want to know whether it was completely legit or not. And by legit I mean no Gray areas. Warez hosting isn't really my forte. But anyway, I'm not looking to spark any EULA discussion so please everyone don't bother.