[Nimiria]

Thanks

I have another problem now: When I want to create the 2 events for the relentless (boarded/captured) the fred always crashes when I make a new event and right click on it... When I make 2 new event and right click on the 2nd, all is okay, but try to right click on the 1st - crash again.

[Mobius]

Yeah, it happens...save, close FRED and re open it to solve the problem(for a while).

[Nimiria]

No it did not help :/

Well, it seems that an empty event does not make a bug for the mission, I just ignored it and made new events without any problems till now ^^

[Nimiria]

Okay here another question

How can I get Planets etc.? I tried that what the walkthrough says, but I do not see a planet or a nebular. I tried higher scales, but nothing happens. How can I make them visible in the mission?

[Mobius]

View ---> Show Background

[Nimiria]

Okay thanks, nice feature

And the reason why I did not see them in the mission was, that I disabled this in the options menue ^^

[Mobius]

There are many things that aren't displayed by dafault(like docking paths) and sometimes they're needed.

[Nimiria]

Hm.. how do I find Icons in Fred oO Select a ship and press mark icon stands in the walkthroug, but where is that?
:/

Edit: Okay when I klick on an objekt and go to briefing I can make there  "make Icon" but how do I save this? When I want to make another one, or just close the briefing menu, the icon is away and in the briefing ingame there is nothing to see... :/

[Mobius]

Take a look at the briefing interface, especially at "copy/paste view": they allow you to create average briefings without problems.

The briefing interface is like the normal interface, only difference being the icons. Therefore, you can handle the camera as usual.

Obviously, you need to practice

[Nimiria]

The problem is, that several icons just are not there. For example cargo icon works, but icon for installation does not. There is just nothing. So what can I make to get them? Not very funny to make a briefing with just a few icons (for example I must use a cargo icon for an installation oO)

[Mobius]

The interface allows you to handle the icons. You can create an icon from a fighter and change everything(class, IFF, icon pic) to adapt it to your needings. Scroll the list of icons, there usually are two versions of the same pic.

[Nimiria]

So you mean something like this?

Icon Image: Cargo
Shiptype: GTI Arcadia (if I want such a station then)
Team: friendly (could be hostile, too)

So I see the green cargo icon and during the briefing I can click on it and I see the station.
Still the problem that it would be better to have a station Icon for a station, so there is no way to do this?

[Mobius]

Simple...click on Icon Image and select "Installation"

[Nimiria]

Oh I did that before ^^ the problem is: There comes no image. Not in Fred, and not in the briefing. There is just nothing there.

[Mobius]

Check the field of view, make sure that the grid appears(you may have exaggerated with the distances).

[Nimiria]

The grid is there, and I can change the distances as much as I want. Installations is not the only icon what is missing..  Cruiser, Freighter.. and some others do not work, too.

Bomber, Fighter, Cargo, Jump node and some others do work.

[Mobius]

Are they placed at the center? Certain icons tend to disappear when they're near the limits of the interface(especially planets).

[Nimiria]

In a new mission I tried them in the center - did not work. I tried planets - they work ^^ Installations do not work

I just looked at some missions from the campaign, I have som empty briefing grids there, too (Destroyers, cruisers etc. are missing - exactly those icons that do not work in my Fred) ...

[Mobius]

Can you please post a pic?

Are you using FS Open? Are you using MODs? Do you think your icons.tbl is the default one?

[Nimiria]

A pic of exactly what?

I use FS open, yes. The newest verstion.
I used some mods but in the launcher I deactivated them before I tested the campaign briefings.
icons.tbl? I can imagine what this is but I have absolutly no idea if it is the right one, perhaps you could host the right one up here and tell me where to move it?