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Offline Flipside

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
Apparently the scope was supposed to be much larger with the storyline, but publisher release pressure led to an incomplete release. From what I understand, Microsoft and Digital Anvil didn't part on entirely friendly terms.

Edit: As lobo said as well :)

 

Offline starlord

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
I suppose it's not that bad but the modding community is to thank for wanting to complete the game! (where can I find those mods besides (discovery and such) ?)

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
(where can I find those mods besides (discovery and such) ?)
I guess Lancer's Reactor is a good place to start.
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23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Offline ShadowGorrath

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
Discovery was a good mod. Like an expansion. Thoug hated the fact that a destroyer can be bumped by a fighter and then forced to turn from the bump ...

 
Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
I guess Lancer's Reactor is a good place to start.
Not since they deleted their mod database. The bastards. They had the destructible universe mod there that you can't get anywhere else.

Not to mention the GTA Valkyrie and and Apollo fighter addons...
Fun while it lasted.

Then bitter.

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
(where can I find those mods besides (discovery and such) ?)
I guess Lancer's Reactor is a good place to start.

Well, that is the first time that's ever happened to me.

I spent a while playing Freelancer with a mod that allowed for the purchasing and piloting of capitol ships. They could be moored at stations with particular equipment. If you engaged afterburner, it'd touch off an 'in-system jump drive' that was just a really fast afterburner, since you couldn't use trade lane rings. Armament was decent, though shields generally felt a bit weak.

Playing through the campaign was alternately thrilling and frustrating. Fighting other capitol ships was an adrenaline rush -- you had to deliver weapons salvos and then jump away with the in-system drive (tap 'tab') before you could be hit in return. Unfortunately, if you ran into something like a ship or a station, when you jumped, you'd die almost instantly, so you had to plot your jumps quite carefully.

I actually managed to get my huge Liberty dreadnought through most of the campaign, including all the journeys through asteroid fields -- that was awful, since you couldn't use cruise drive or jump drive without hitting an asteroid and dying almost instantly. Asteroid impacts were a bigger threat than enemy fire!

I finally had to ditch the capitol ship when I reached the mission that requires you to race someone through a set of rings. I couldn't fit the dreadnought through.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
Not since they deleted their mod database. The bastards. They had the destructible universe mod there that you can't get anywhere else.
Oh, fiddlesticks. Never mind, then.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Offline BS403

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
go to moddb they have all the freelancer downloads you'll need.
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Offline starlord

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
Are you saying destructive universe is gone for good? There must be somewhere it can be found again!

 

Offline Roanoke

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
I see Freelancer as something as a missed opportunity. It had some really great moments (Escape from Liberty and forming up with the Cruisers to respond to Willard's distress signal being two of my favourites) but it wasted them with the constant need to grind between the missions in order to buy better ships.

Had they simply doubled or tripled the number of set missions instead and cut down on the grinding the game would probably have a much better reputation.

Agreed.  :yes:

 

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
Great game, could have been better...particualy in story and balance...alotugh the way the story was told was superb IMHO.
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Offline Kosh

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
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I actually managed to get my huge Liberty dreadnought through most of the campaign, including all the journeys through asteroid fields -- that was awful, since you couldn't use cruise drive or jump drive without hitting an asteroid and dying almost instantly. Asteroid impacts were a bigger threat than enemy fire!

Instead of going through asteroid fields why not just go around them? Just go a little bit above or below the astral plane.

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Great game, could have been better...particualy in story and balance...alotugh the way the story was told was superb IMHO.

The scaling was also a bit of an issue, as was pointed out earlier. I did feel capital ships were too weak, and for some reason they were so vulnerable to heavy fighters because their armaments were so ineffective. If only they have FS2 style anti-fighter defences   :drevil:
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
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I actually managed to get my huge Liberty dreadnought through most of the campaign, including all the journeys through asteroid fields -- that was awful, since you couldn't use cruise drive or jump drive without hitting an asteroid and dying almost instantly. Asteroid impacts were a bigger threat than enemy fire!

Instead of going through asteroid fields why not just go around them? Just go a little bit above or below the astral plane.

Because several plot-critical bases (was one group called the Blood Dragons? Don't remember) are within asteroid fields.

 

Offline CP5670

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
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The scaling was also a bit of an issue, as was pointed out earlier.

Anyone remember the Ross Planetoid in one of the systems? That thing was smaller than many of the space stations, but still instantly sucked you in if you got too close. :D

 

Offline Ryan

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
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The scaling was also a bit of an issue, as was pointed out earlier.

Anyone remember the Ross Planetoid in one of the systems? That thing was smaller than many of the space stations, but still instantly sucked you in if you got too close. :D

Cambridge system, Bretonia. The thing was TINY but it looked like its atmosphere was bigger then any planet in the game. It as dwarfed by a nearby battleship.

 
Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
I loved Freelancer to me the game was less of your standard space shooter like freespace but more of an ultra modern TDS like a modern version of Tyrian 2000 or Raptor, especially with the control sceme it had which I actually liked.

I did play online on the local server for a while. I use to guard my friend in his transport as we made trading runs from other players. One time a heavy fighter tried to take us out, but I managed to out manouver him with my light fighter staying behind him thanks to moving in one direction and turning your ship to fight on your side. :-D

Lets say he was pissed and tried to take us out for hours cause of it.

 

Offline Nuke

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
i dont think anyone hates freelancer at all, it just lacked staying power like the freespace engine has. its no different than most fps games you play it once maybe twice and then can it. good games but you cant really play more than a couple times before it grows stale.

i did get a couple nukemod ships into freelancer at one point. that was sorta fun and all, but doing so required editing like 20 ini files, where as to do the same thing in fs required editing of 1 file and the mission you wanted to use it in. freelancer's model converter was just as easy to use as pcs 1 or 2, it just locked you into a format id rather not use, its worse than cob (ms3d :mad: ). as far as modding goes id rather just mod freespace. im sure with some script a trading game could be possible with future verwsions of the engine if not current ones.
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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
I think its a pretty cool game. Why do you all seem to hate it?

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Offline Roanoke

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
The factions system was flawed too. I spent ages hunting Mercs to get into the smugglers good graces only to have them turned against me, after escaping the Liberty system, with no real explanation.

 

Offline Nuke

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Re: Why does everybody hate freelancer?
i kept trying to red out my reputation with everyone, it didnt work.
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