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Re: *Rejoice* Battlestar Galactica Season 4
Is anybody else getting kind of annoyed with the excruciatingly slow pace/way-too-heavy religious/Christian overtones? It's all good quality, but it's starting to get to the point where it's practically a show about religion. For pete's sake, the main image on the BSG web page is a knock off of The Last Supper: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

They also could have probably cut that whole episode down to twenty minutes and been fine with it. I'm just getting annoyed that all of these episodes are just setting up scenery for something big, without feeling like we're making any progress towards it.

 

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Honestly I'm pretty tired of it too... the main reason I like the show other than it just being a great story is because it's probably the closest thing to a FreeSpace movie I'll ever see.  Man, I bought Solaris for me and Melissa and told her it was great.  She hated the whole story of it and honestly I do too. But I couldn't keep my eye off of the environment, his big window, and the cool planet. :P

The whole religious aspect of BSG has exhausted its potential to make this story an art form.  BSG is not just a space story, not really a "religious" one either.  The acclaimed "space opera" is more of a show about human nature.  What is more human than religion?  BSG portrays how religion can be good, bad, and ridiculous more also it would seem that he wanted to make the distinction with what's real and what's not.  Although I can't say I agree with him, but that's not the reason I watch it.  I'm comfortable enough with what I believe to see that it's simply a good story.  I often like to sit back and enjoy what the human imagination is capable of.  This show was birthed from a brilliant mind and ironically is a statement about the parallels between religion and imagination. :lol:

I will completely agree though that they are dragging it out this last season and I cannot stand cliffhangers :)
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Re: *Rejoice* Battlestar Galactica Season 4
It had good momentum until the pair of episodes after
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('The Road Less Traveled' and 'Escape Velocity'), I believe. But I think that 'Faith', the last episode, was a good sign and a step back in the right direction.
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I once said somebody needed to throw them a Viper-shaped bone, well...they need to again.
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Re: *Rejoice* Battlestar Galactica Season 4
Hot damn, that was a good episode. I'm really starting to warm up to the notion that the entire season is going to be one, long arc without any stand-alones. Really packing in the tension. The whole prophecy/vision storyline is really starting to get interesting, I just wish we'd get to see a little more of Caprica Six. Still, Athena going nutters and taking out Natalie in cold blood is good enough, I guess.

Also, i've come to realize that the gunners of Galactica must have some serious balls to have only a thin, glass barrier between them and the friendly skies. I wonder if the BtRL lads have inserted little people sitting in those bubbles on their Galactica model:

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The last few minutes of that episode were just nervewracking. Gosh, everything that could've gone wrong...went wrong. But in a highly dramatic and entertaining way!

Looks like Lee's going to be president next episode.

So, resurrection hub? What d'you think?
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Loved it!
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Re: *Rejoice* Battlestar Galactica Season 4
BSG is starting to remind me of '24', especially because of what happened to Felix. Scary.
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BSG is starting to remind me of '24', especially because of what happened to Felix. Scary.
Poor, poor Gaeta.

 

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Re: *Rejoice* Battlestar Galactica Season 4
Is anybody else getting kind of annoyed with the excruciatingly slow pace/way-too-heavy religious/Christian overtones? It's all good quality, but it's starting to get to the point where it's practically a show about religion. For pete's sake, the main image on the BSG web page is a knock off of The Last Supper: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

They also could have probably cut that whole episode down to twenty minutes and been fine with it. I'm just getting annoyed that all of these episodes are just setting up scenery for something big, without feeling like we're making any progress towards it.
The dialog in this show is so beautiful, and so charged, that I don't find myself seeing its as simply a preparatory device. It's a part of the show's fabric, and it's what makes it a real drama and not just an orgy of plot. There are times when I almost hope there won't be any major progress in the story arc just because of the moments that I wish they could suspend even longer. And as for the religious allegory, I'm a sucker for that stuff anyway, so no complaints from me.
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For pete's sake, the main image on the BSG web page is a knock off of The Last Supper: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/
 

So no one can have a picture of the whole gang at a table, on the view of the tables side, without it being religious? You are reading too far into it, and stop getting ur panties in a bunch.

Too religous? Come on, the whole quest for earth, which you love that part of the story, came out of their sacred books, of corse its going to be religous and show how they progress in their beleifs as they near their goal. Their religon surronds the quest for earth, so cant have one without the other. Get over it.
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Hera is getting really creepy. Period. Especially that scene where Athena wakes up from that vision, Hera is right there and says "Bye Bye".
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I think the final cylon is NOT baltar. baltars just insance caz he got his whole planet nuked. That chick who is the core of the Bayships, she is the final model. Once shes liberated, she will use her visions for her own will. Her model will be wiked cool.

Thats where the 'shape of things to come' , Hera, is a mix of permniicent Bayship-core-lady and humans and cylon...
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Re: *Rejoice* Battlestar Galactica Season 4
I'm not sure the hybrid could be the final Cylon. In fact, I'm pretty sure the hybrid is not any one of the Twelve.

They say they already know who it is, and have for a long while now (presumably since late S3.) And, allegedly, there've been hints dropped for a while. But all we know is that it will be revealed 'in the howl of terrible suffering'...which isn't much to go on.

Unless it's Gaeta, losing his leg and all.

 

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That's a distinct possibility...

Or Starbuck, she heard the music

And that scene with Hera standing over Athena was much more terrifying than any bloodbath they could come up with

 

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For pete's sake, the main image on the BSG web page is a knock off of The Last Supper: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/
 

So no one can have a picture of the whole gang at a table, on the view of the tables side, without it being religious? You are reading too far into it, and stop getting ur panties in a bunch.

Too religous? Come on, the whole quest for earth, which you love that part of the story, came out of their sacred books, of corse its going to be religous and show how they progress in their beleifs as they near their goal. Their religon surronds the quest for earth, so cant have one without the other. Get over it.


They're all arranged in a relatively similar fashion, there are twelve characters, it coincides with the whole religion arc - it's not a coincidence, it's deliberate and pretty obvious. You have to be pretty blind not to see it.

Anyway, good last episode. Things are finally starting to pick up again, although the cliffhangers annoy the hell out of me :p

 

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I still think Starbuck is the last cylon. She's going to lead "her people" to their end.

...the humans get off just fine, however.

 

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I think it's Gaeta.

 

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Mark my words, its Roslyn.  There are pointers and clues in nearly every episode.
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I think the final cylon is NOT baltar. baltars just insance caz he got his whole planet nuked. That chick who is the core of the Bayships, she is the final model. Once shes liberated, she will use her visions for her own will. Her model will be wiked cool.

Thats where the 'shape of things to come' , Hera, is a mix of permniicent Bayship-core-lady and humans and cylon...

Have you been watching the show?  The hybrids are a part of the ship.  They aren't a Cylon model at all.  Your bit about Hera doesn't make any sense either.
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