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Offline colecampbell666

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I can't think of anything. Try a different build.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline McMad

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Like?

 

Offline colecampbell666

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Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Instead of throwing a pile o' stuff at you, I for one would like to present a single option: 20071028T. I've had good results with it. And in your case, it can't hurt to try.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline colecampbell666

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Try either of the ones in my sig. The first one is the best one I've found.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline MP-Ryan

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I can shed light on this problem.

It's an error from the arrival cue in the mission.  I've noticed it in Sync and Transcend, but not Blue Planet.  It appears to be confined to 3.6.9.  Simple solution:  Use a 3.6.10 build.

I believe it is related to the whole host of issues 3.6.9 has with red alert missions.  To my knowledge it has not been Mantis'ed, but it also does not appear in 3.6.10 builds.

3.6.7 does not experience the bug.  3.6.9 does.  3.6.10 does not.

A new pilot file will not resolve the issue in general.
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Offline McMad

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Thanks for the info.

Is there any way to skip levels. I can't face playing through the first levels of Blueplanet again :sigh:

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Just try a 3.6.10 build first. If no luck, then create a new pilot and start over. The usual way to "skip" a mission is to fail it five times in a row. Or you could fiddle up a modified campaign file where the campaign starts from a later mission. And, that's about it. Unless you want to use the Mission Simulator and the key combination Ctrl + Shift + S, but that would really ruin the feeling.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline MP-Ryan

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Thanks for the info.

Is there any way to skip levels. I can't face playing through the first levels of Blueplanet again :sigh:

You don't need to, unless you deleted your pilot.

Simply download a 3.6.10 build, dump it into your FS folder, select it in the launcher, and run with it.  Pilots can be used interchangeably with more recent builds, it's just reverting back that can be problematic.

That said, I've been using the same pilot in all the 3.6.10 builds with nary an issue.
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This poor guy, you've all been asking him random totally unrelated questions when it's a common red alert bug... all he needs is the latest build

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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This poor guy, you've all been asking him random totally unrelated questions when it's a common red alert bug... all he needs is the latest build
And what exactly did you do to help? At least we tried. And now the issue is solved. Touché.

Also, for the record, I've had abso-****ing-lutely no red-alert issues with 3.6.9. Well, apart from Homesick, but that, as we know it, is another story.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline colecampbell666

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I thought that it was a Red-Alert bug from the start.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline McMad

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This poor guy, you've all been asking him random totally unrelated questions when it's a common red alert bug... all he needs is the latest build

Yeh, shame it doesn't work though. None of the 3_9_10 builds I have tried have worked. When I run in debug with them they make no complaints until the problem should happen, then they crash.

 

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You can also fix the problem by simply editing the mission in question to get rid of the red-alert.

(I had this very problem in Sync - I got into the mission and had the hud but absolutely nothing else - just black, endless black.

If that's the problem you had.)

 

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You can also fix the problem by simply editing the mission in question to get rid of the red-alert.

(I had this very problem in Sync - I got into the mission and had the hud but absolutely nothing else - just black, endless black.

If that's the problem you had.)

I'm having the same problem with Procyon Insurgency, HUD visible everything else blacked out!  :(

I've tried newer builds (3.6.10), but it didn't help. I'll have try again with another pilot but I'm not sure it will work. And some of those missions are long and tortuous!  :sigh:
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Offline MP-Ryan

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AFAIK, it shouldn't happen in 3.6.10.  You may need to try a new pilot file if it is happening - its possible that encountering the bug has totally muffed your pilot in the first place.

Also, as someone else mentioned, you can delete the red alert flag.

If you can get it to happen reproducibly in a recent 3.6.10 build (e.g. one from May) with a new pilot file, then this should be Mantis'ed.  Like I said, I haven't run into it in 3.6.10 so I'm going to venture a guess your pilot is hosed and its not a simple matter of a build upgrade with an exisiting pilot but rather a build upgrade and a new pilot.
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Offline McMad

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Well, I did make a new build 10 pilot earlier and had the problem, but I couldn't tell you if it was before may. Anyway, how do you remove a red alert flag? I don't know how you get at the FRED file from the .vp

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Anyway, how do you remove a red alert flag? I don't know how you get at the FRED file from the .vp
Get VPView and extract the necessary mission file(s) from the vp. Next, open the extracted mission file(s) with Notepad. If there is a line that says:
+Red Alert: 1

, set it to
+Red Alert: 0

or just remove the whole line. Save, and place the modified mission file to \freespace\data\missions or \freespace\modname\data\missions (create the folders if/when necessary).
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline McMad

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I can't find anything saying red alert in the file. Is there anything else it could be?
I would have thought it would be round here somewere:
Code: [Select]
+Game Type Flags: 1

+Flags: 327808

+Disallow Support: 1

+Hull Repair Ceiling: 0.000000

+Subsystem Repair Ceiling: 100.000000

+Viewer pos: 11997.007813, 8896.418945, -3212.658936
+Viewer orient:
0.013894, 0.000001, 0.999903,
-0.372030, 0.928206, 0.005169,
-0.928117, -0.372066, 0.012897

N.B. I did find the level name, whover it was who wanted to know: "Frankenstein's Monsters"

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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If it is a red-alert mission, the red-alert flag should be there. Use the search function of Notepad (Ctrl-F) and look for the word "alert".
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []