[Mobius]

That's random stuff.

[Snail]

Which must be removed.

[Shade]

He'll get a chance to organize it in case it really is for a custom campaign. If he doesn't, then it gets removed, as all the changes he made to pre-existing pages already have been.

[Goober5000]

ITA Master has already ignored edits to his user and talk pages, and seems to be continuing to make edits, oblivious to our requests, warnings, and corrections to his new pages.

This is the salient point.  If he continues to make changes without regard to canon policy or user comments, we can delete all his new pages and then ban his Wiki account.  He'll eventually come to the forum to complain, and we can set him straight then.

[Shade]

And he will be banned if he continues. He has only been active on the wiki for 2 days, though, which is not long. As I said in my first post on this topic, I'll ban him if it comes to it, but given that what he has done wrong is quite minor, that I consider banning (even temporarily) a sort of nuclear option that should be reserved for serious offenders who just can't be reasoned with, and that he's new, I'm willing to give him one more chance now that I've spelled out to him (in a fairly friendly way) how to properly add campaign specific info to the wiki.

I mean, hell, he new enough that he may not even know what it means when he gets the popup notifying him of a new message on his talk page. But if keeps making bad changes, then ban him I will. I've got all the reverted pages on my watchlist, so if he tried to edit them again I'll know it.

[NGTM-1R]

AFAIK there is no such thing as the GTD Skull, or an WMD, or the ITA.

ITA is referenced in early FreeSpace 1 stuff. The Galatea was original the ITA Repulse, for example.

[TopAce]

That doesn't make it canon.

My suggestion is a 2-3 day cooldown ban.

I also left a message to him, in which I asked him to respond in "any way [he] can." Hopefully, he will respond in some way and we can sort this out.

[Snail]

ITA is referenced in early FreeSpace 1 stuff. The Galatea was original the ITA Repulse, for example.

I know that, but there's nothing about any events in 1998, WMDs or the BTD Skull in any canon source. How can you misspell GTA as BTA so many times? Besides, ITA could mean anything, not only the ITA of ITA Repulse.

To the admins:
Delete all the new pages he's created, please. Non of them contain any useful canon information, and even if they do they're incomprehensibly written.

[Shade]

Matter closed, for now. Cleaned out everything he added since he never showed up to explain himself in the two weeks I gave him, and if he does something similar again, he'll get a ban on the spot.

In case ITA Master reads this: You're welcome to get in touch with me and explain yourself if you actually had plans for that stuff you added. I'll gladly work with you to get it added in a proper way if it is part of some project you are working on.

[Edit] And a request: Could we get this locked? I'd rather not get my 'final' statement on the matter lost beneath 10 replies that are totally unnecessary as the matter is taken care of already.

[Goober5000]

Unlocked and bumped.  I can split this into a new thread if people prefer.

BTA/ITA Master is now back, but as Hiigara instead now.  Look at all the crap that he's added.

Per this thread, I've banned him from the wiki and sent him an email.

EDIT: And unless I hear a good reason, I'll probably delete all the new pages he added as well as all of ITA Master's new pages within a few days.

[FreeSpaceFreak]

Well, at least now we know that it's referring to his mod, Evolution. Maybe just add non-canon tags everywhere?

[Colonol Dekker]

"Tango Mango Fortress"?

 

 


Funniest thing I've read on here in ages.

[Shade]

BTA/ITA Master is now back, but as Hiigara instead now

Heh, so it *was* him? Thought that style looked familiar, and would probably have banned him today anyway if you hadn't got there first. While posting campaign info is generally fine, given his track record he'll damn well have to demonstrate that he actually has a campaign to post about before that stuff goes in.

Oh, and I agree deletion of those pages is in order. ITA's are two years old and it's clear now that there's no campaign forthcoming, and the ones as Hiigara are just more of the same.

Well, at least now we know that it's referring to his mod, Evolution. Maybe just add non-canon tags everywhere?

Gave him a long leash on his first visit, and he's had two years since then to show that he is actually capable of delivering something - Not necessarily a release, but at least some visible progress, like screenshots or even something as simple as posting a progress update on the forums. Nothing has materialized, and now apparently he's jumped on a new project: A TC no less. Now, call me a pessimist if you will, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that one guy isn't going to finish a TC all on his lonesome even if he is a modding god.

So as far as I'm concerned, until some evidence is presented showing that this TC is actually an even borderline viable project, and that he actually has a chance of doing something with it over the next, oh, 4-6 years, I'm inclined to consider it poor fanfiction rather than a description of a mod-in-progress, and as such something that does not belong on the wiki.

[Goober5000]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that one guy isn't going to finish a TC all on his lonesome even if he is a modding god.

Me too.  Which he isn't, anyway, judging from this quote:

No Modding Tools. Will like some help

Due by my lack of modding ships and etc. I'd like it if anyone during there spare time can message me if they can help me make this Conversion. I'm sorry for any I mean any spelling errors because of my suckish spelling. If anyone wishes to fix this that would be lovely. But if they make it worse then i will report the person responsible. Thank you and this will be out at any time.

I like this one as well:

Warning

Do not edit or change this page. Thank you.

By the way, his email address has 1997 in it.  If that's his birth year, then he's 13 years old now.  Which means he was 11 during the first incident.

[TopAce]

http://www.xfire.com/video/274c5a/

Apparently, he's got a video, so there is progress. I don't know for how long this mod has been in development, but the video makes it clear that it may come to reality. Evolution deserves its own page on the wiki and Hilgara deserves a chance to prove himself, but I support the removal of all the random and undescriptive faction pages.

And why was he banned? Because he was adding random stuff or because he was an alter ego of a banned member, ITA Master? Or both?

[headdie]

hmmm, mission layout is a little 2d, anyone ever invite him to participate on the forum?

[Jeff Vader]

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=8068

[Droid803]

hmmm, mission layout is a little 2d, anyone ever invite him to participate on the forum?

The last time he posted about it, it got flamed to death.
(Not exactly, but he got shot down pretty hard)

[The E]

http://www.xfire.com/video/274c5a/

Apparently, he's got a video, so there is progress. I don't know for how long this mod has been in development, but the video makes it clear that it may come to reality. Evolution deserves its own page on the wiki and Hilgara deserves a chance to prove himself, but I support the removal of all the random and undescriptive faction pages.

He had the same amount of progress to show for that "A New Era" thing he had before that, and nothing came of that either.
Seriously, nothing against campaign creators making a WIP page for their campaigns, but a) his writing style was unreadable, b) he has never released anything, and c) most of the "information" he's adding could just as well be placed on the mod's main page. Not to mention that he keeps lacing his entries with all sorts of undefined stuff that means nothing to anybody not him.
So, +1 vote for summary deletion of those articles.

[TopAce]

He had the same amount of progress to show for that "A New Era" thing he had before that, and nothing came of that either.

Because he was discouraged.