[NGTM-1R]

So CNN's saying Obama's clinched the Democratic nomination for US President, and Hillary just gave a rather backhanded concession speech of which I watched as much as I could stomache before coming here to post.

And now Mrs. Clinton wants the VP spot. Personally, I think that's a disaster waiting to happen, because the VP's job in life is to make thing easier on the President, and I don't see her doing that at all.

And what about the rest of you? Thoughts?

[Nuke]

he still lost, everyones so pissed at the dems theyre all gonna vote mccain

[Colonol Dekker]

No more Bush??? .............................


Lets see how this guy does, when does he get sworn in. Tomorrow?

[achtung]

No more Bush??? .............................


Lets see how this guy does, when does he get sworn in. Tomorrow?

He won the Democratic Primary, not the presidential election. 

[colecampbell666]

It means that he has to do a bunch of ceremonial stuff. (I think) Either that or Clinton keeps asking for a recount again and again until Obama steps down.

[Colonol Dekker]

So what does this mean? I'm from a different political system. Is he the next in line or just one of the next candidates :v-confused:

[NGTM-1R]

It means that he has to do a bunch of ceremonial stuff. (I think) Either that or Clinton keeps asking for a recount again and again until Obama steps down.

Clinton's speech was very defiant. You'd think she was still trying to get nominated. This campaign has proved very...enlightening, concern her personality. There's no doubt Hillary is smart, but for a political animal she has also been extraordinarily unpolitic. Those half-amused predictions she was going to try and take the Democratic campaign down with her are considerably less amusing now. She looks like she might just try. Her concession speech suggested as much.

[Mars]

So what does this mean? I'm from a different political system. Is he the next in line or just one of the next candidates :v-confused:

It means that Obama is the one the Democatic political party is nominating for president, i.e. he's one of two people who have a chance in hell of getting elected president.

[Vretsu]

I'm glad Obama won the Democratic nominee, and I plan on voting for him in November. Unfortunately, he's doomed.

As Obama tends to present himself as a shining beacon of change, his most minute gaffes will be fixated upon and he will be buried. McCain can be tripped up by a dozen Lobbyist scandals, embezzle his election money, be tied to fifty controversial Preachers, and flip-flop his way down seventy flights of stairs and barely cause the public to shrug. Because, disturbingly, its almost expected.

If a friend of one of Obama's aquaintances says something dodgy it causes the entire Obama campaign to grind to a halt.

[Colonol Dekker]

Ahh. . .much clearer, so he and the republican, senator Palpatine will run for presidency soon, weeks or months?
*i'm watching BBC News 24 and Obama is talking now. I have to say i'd vote for him. He sounds like he want's to leave iraq to it.

[Vretsu]

Elections are in November.

Congratulations, you are now more informed than 99% of my countrymen.

[Mars]

I like to think most Americans are smart enough not to vote for a man who openly said he wants to stay in Iraq.

I have a running bet with Karajorma about that, I might even put money behind it.

[Colonol Dekker]

British politics is too "shades of grey." political correctness good mad i tell you. Gordon Brown wasn't voted in. . At least Obama came across as concise and genuine.

[IceFire]

So what does this mean? I'm from a different political system. Is he the next in line or just one of the next candidates :v-confused:

The US system is totally unlike the UK/Canada/etc. system.  In a year like this where Bush's 2nd term is up (Presidents are allowed only two terms) both parties go around the country with candidates running for president.  So all of the registered democrats and republicans in each state vote for the candidate of choice.  As the process goes along (its one state at a time rather than all at once) the field narrows as candidates pick up momentum and others drop out.  Eventually someone gets enough votes to win and they go on to run for the November elections.  The senators and other local leaders are all elected separately.

So Obama has...seemingly...officially won the chance to run in November.

Instead of in a typical parliamentary system where you vote for the local member of parliament (MP) and whichever party has the most number of MPs in parliament gets to form the government and whoever is the leader of that party gets to run the country.  The US system is allot more complicated in my view.  I still don't understand half of it but I like watching some of the political commentary...gives me a picture of US society...and I have to say that I hate the whole process.  The election of a president is a popularity contest and it seems like the media spend most of their time on that....nobody has talked in detail about policy or platforms or anything for the whole process...its crazy and totally foreign to me.

[WeatherOp]

It's gonna take a huge move by Obama to beat McCain. He's gonna have to work hard to repair the rift between his supporters and the shemale's. Otherwise they will vote against him out of spite.

[IceFire]

It's gonna take a huge move by Obama to beat McCain. He's gonna have to work hard to repair the rift between his supporters and the shemale's. Otherwise they will vote against him out of spite.

Thats the problem...there's a whole bunch of spiteful people out there and combined with some racists and weird people ...its going to be a tough battle for Obama.  Trouble is that the country probably needs someone like him.

[NGTM-1R]

I like to think most Americans are smart enough not to vote for a man who openly said he wants to stay in Iraq.

I have a running bet with Karajorma about that, I might even put money behind it.

I'm not sure what's stupid about it personally. We made the damn mess, and leaving isn't going to make it any better, we might as well stay and clean it up. I'll agree we should never have gone in, but leaving it like it is would be even more monumentally stupid.

[Ghost]

Obama is my generation's Kennedy, haters and all. I like the hell out of him, and this is damned good news. Also Hillary better not get the ****ing VP spot. I hate that *****.

[BloodEagle]

 

You people do realize that they're all horrible choices, don't you?

[Stormkeeper]

Jeff: What do you think about Bush?
Achmed: Oh,  I love bushes, they're ... OH, you mean the man!