[Scooby_Doo]

Y is up, z is forward, x is port/star.

Edit: I wonder if this is a Max issue.

[Spicious]

I know what Y_UP should be. It's just that the only sample I'd received that used Y_UP had z as backwards. But, pec's sample from cinema 4d is rotated 180 degrees around the left/right axis (upside down and backwards) compared to what it should be. That seems to be using y as the down axis.

Nothing seems to agree with what the Collada spec says about axes which is ever so slightly annoying. Let me know which axes you think need to be flipped. Maybe there could be axis flipping tickboxes in the options, but an odd number of flips turns things inside out.

[Scooby_Doo]

I take that back, the axis changed 

X is still port but y is front/back and z is up/down.  If I rotate the model 180 z degrees then it's correct


Ohhh I think I see where you're coming up with Y_UP, it's in the xml file.

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<up_axis>Z_UP</up_axis>


[Spicious]

That's odd, Z_UP is the most often used and I don't think anyone's reported any problems with it recently.

[Scooby_Doo]

Any one else use Max?

[Spicious]

I believe DaBrain does.

[pecenipicek]

i'm afraid that that particular problem with the axes is related to dae export, since i know for a fact that when i was pofing the model, everything was correct, and the model has been tested ingame quite a lot by me and 2 or three others....

[Water]

It works as a PMF and can export to DAE.
It will not, however, export to a POF (hangs) or import as a DAE (crashes.)

The dae file - was it exported from the PMF or from modeling software?

The dae -  I can import and save to pof.  http://files.filefront.com/dae+pof7z/;11943126;/fileinfo.html

The pmf - was able to export to dae and load that dae. Then save to pof.  Although I don't fully trust files that have been stored as pmf. http://files.filefront.com/pmf+dae+pof7z/;11943229;/fileinfo.html

Both files - only looked at in pcs2 (ver 21 Sept)- not checked in fs.

Clicking on subobjects - the blue bounding box? is offset. The one in port 304 seems to have that problem as well.

Edit: turret 38 is missing barrel in pofs (its in the pmf)

[Galemp]

The DAE I included is a straight export from the PMF that I included, so you could open it up and take a look. The PMF got to where it is now via Max and a lot of work with PCS.

[Scooby_Doo]

i'm afraid that that particular problem with the axes is related to dae export, since i know for a fact that when i was pofing the model, everything was correct, and the model has been tested ingame quite a lot by me and 2 or three others....

In that case, Spicious, you're probably better off with a flip axis dialog, since who knows what gets flipped with which version.

[Water]

The DAE I included is a straight export from the PMF that I included, so you could open it up and take a look. The PMF got to where it is now via Max and a lot of work with PCS.

Ok - try this http://files.filefront.com/karnak+3+oct7z/;11952704;/fileinfo.html

[Spicious]

How about we try this:
Everyone who cares makes a rectangular prism such that:

• One corner is at (0,0,0)
• One face is x units to the left
• One face is 2x units up
• One face is 4x units forward

where x is arbitrary.

[Scooby_Doo]

Here you go: http://scoobydoo.freespacemods.net/Problems/rectangle.dae

[Vasudan Admiral]

If I've interpreted what you're after correctly, here's Blenders output. This is currently being correctly interpreted by PCS2.

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[pecenipicek]

I think thats about right. x in my case was 100.


it does not import into pcs2 however. pcs2 states that detail0 cant be found.

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[Spicious]

Well, it looks like the max and blender rectangles conflict. Can you try opening each other's rectangles and checking if they import facing the right way.

[Vasudan Admiral]

On import into blender the max rectangle is rotated 180° about the Z axis, so for whichever you pick as the default, all that the importer needs to do for the other type is mirror the scene by X and Y.

[Scooby_Doo]

On import into blender the max rectangle is rotated 180° about the Z axis, so for whichever you pick as the default, all that the importer needs to do for the other type is mirror the scene by X and Y.

Ditto.

[Spicious]

In that case, I think mirror axis tickboxes are going in.

Edit: Axis mirroring on import is in.

[Scooby_Doo]

Also I've notice that exporting to dae files causes it to crash. Sometimes with array out of bounds.