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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
All in all it's a great campaign, but the last mission I really hate.

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Not because of what happens though (as a fan of "A Dark Mirror Distorted Mirror" and "Titan AE" I know that losing Earth can make for an interesting story).

But I hammered away at an Avioki for more than 10 minutes and it went down to just 95%. I'd estimate that 10 minutes of continuous fire from a thunderbolt should be enough to destroy 2 normal Aviokis, where those in this mission took only 5% damage.
I don't think even Shadow ships have that many hitpoints.

In my opinion it would have been better to leave them at normal or maybe as much as twice their normal HP and find some other way to make sure the Brakiri win against the EA fleet. Even giving them Shadow-beams as weapons is better than the current solution I think (if they are strong enough I guess the shadow-omegas fusion weapons or drakh beams would be best).

I don't know if it was intended, but the evac transports left in my game at 35 minutes! All capships and satelites were destroyed after 15.
I think 20 minutes of boring escort duty with occasionaly destroying enemy fighters is far too much.
Also the transports (non of them capable of creating jump points) depart into hyperspace on their own. It would be better to put a jumpgate at their exit point or have one cap-ship survive to open a jumppoint for them, preferably heavily damaged and disarmed, so it makes some sense that the Brakiri don't persue it.

But as I said, apart from the last mission it was a really great campaign and I enjoyed it a lot.

Edited for more specific wording and spoiler tags
« Last Edit: July 30, 2008, 05:02:19 pm by -Norbert- »

 

Offline Daeron

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
To be honest, I don't want to find out if you were vague or not. Strained my eyes not to read the big section of your post... I'm still only halfway through the campaign.

Just use spoiler tags and you can be as specific as you want.
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Offline madaboutgames

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
Well Im glad to hear you likes the campaign Norbert, apart from the last mission.

Well as you would expect the last mission is meant to be hard, the elite cruisers and advanced cruisers are meant to be a lot harder than a standard brakiri cruiser.  Maybe not taking 5% off in 10 mins, but that must be down to the difficulty level as he elite and advanced cruisers have nearly double hit points of a standard cruiser.

The transports are meant to take a while, and yes the attacking fighter wings will keep you on your toes.  Realistically in a battle of this scale it is right to suggest the actual battle would last 15 mins and that the transports would also take time to escape.  I didnt want to put a jumpgate for the transports as the only jumpgate in the sol system is at the io tranasfer point. 

But anyway glad you enjoyed it and dont forget to post you scrren capture of yur end of war summary in the highest score thread - http://proxima-fleet.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=98


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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
Pham,

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I can't even play the first mission. XD

 

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You need to install TBP 3.4b final (the latest and final one)  Any earlier version wont recognise the variables as you can see from the problem your having :)
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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
Thought I had the final already. :P
Re-Downloading...

 

Offline Getter Robo G

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
Part of the confusion maybe the filefront DL is named the same as the non-final release...

I also thought I had the latest FINAL version (I did not). A total reinstall solved the problem...
I still suck however...  :nervous:
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Offline cloneof

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
Just a question to the "non-linear" point about the EBW campaing

Spoiler:
Is it possible still manage to the awesome EA vs Shadow battle at the Brakiri homeworld, even if you screw up the battles for Altair and Ross 128. On my last try I managed to screw up Altair, but saved the Ross 128 station and still got all the way from the disabled ship assasination level to the EA battle with the Shadow. As it said on the cover "un-linear", made me wonder about this "destroy as much but still make it look like a victory" scenario. The campaign itself was awesome and I totally didn`t expect Shadows at the mission, so when they appeared I was, one of them was right in front of me and made me scream in my head "DIVE, DIVE, DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT!" before the rest of the Alpha squad was blown out of the sky, the feeling was awesome and I have only you to thank you and your wonderfull team madaboutgames, made me feel about should I ones again try to work with the editor and keep the community alive, but in all, thanks for the best TPB campaign, ever!

 

Offline madaboutgames

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
Just a question to the "non-linear" point about the EBW campaing

Spoiler:
Is it possible still manage to the awesome EA vs Shadow battle at the Brakiri homeworld, even if you screw up the battles for Altair and Ross 128. On my last try I managed to screw up Altair, but saved the Ross 128 station and still got all the way from the disabled ship assasination level to the EA battle with the Shadow. As it said on the cover "un-linear", made me wonder about this "destroy as much but still make it look like a victory" scenario. The campaign itself was awesome and I totally didn`t expect Shadows at the mission, so when they appeared I was, one of them was right in front of me and made me scream in my head "DIVE, DIVE, DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT!" before the rest of the Alpha squad was blown out of the sky, the feeling was awesome and I have only you to thank you and your wonderfull team madaboutgames, made me feel about should I ones again try to work with the editor and keep the community alive, but in all, thanks for the best TPB campaign, ever!

Spoiler:
The shadow battle at the end is only playable through the good side (non-linear almost :lol: Originally the was no shadow mission and you fought the Brakiri at their homeworld but I opted to change this to incorporate the shadows which is more true to the babylon 5 storyline and leads the way for EBW2.  If you lose the Altair station then lose the Ross 128 mining facility you will embark on the defensive missions as the Brakiri fight you all the way back to earth.  Save eaither of these stations and you embark on the good side thus fighting the shadows at the end.  Im glad you enjoyed it
Spoiler:

Look out for the Babylon 5 Star Fury 12 mission pack coming your way next week where you will get to fight the shadows and many other races in the canon B5 episode based missions :)
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Offline cloneof

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
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Interesting... Any possibility giving me the link for the B5 map showing off on some of the missions, looked interesting and doesn`T show up on Google image search?

 
Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback

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i'm definitly having fun with this campaign, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to save the Aggamemnon in the first mission. i'm trying to get all positive results for the missions. Is it possible to save the aggie at all? I had epsilon wing torpedo both elite cruisers into oblivion, and then I intercepted all of the bomb-equipped transports and frigates, but the aggamemnon just wandered right into the firing arc of both remaining brakiri cruisers and got toasted without firing a shot. How the hell do I finish this mission with both capital ships intact?

 

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i'm definitly having fun with this campaign, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to save the Aggamemnon in the first mission. i'm trying to get all positive results for the missions. Is it possible to save the aggie at all? I had epsilon wing torpedo both elite cruisers into oblivion, and then I intercepted all of the bomb-equipped transports and frigates, but the aggamemnon just wandered right into the firing arc of both remaining brakiri cruisers and got toasted without firing a shot. How the hell do I finish this mission with both capital ships intact?


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The best way to do it is to order ALL available wings to first attack the nearest cruiser then the next one.  Leave the frigates as the Agamemnon and the cruiser will stay behind and try and take out the frigates.  While they are doing this order ALL fighters to attack the 1st far away cruiser and then th second.  While they attack i suggest you take out its beam weapons :)
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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback


Spoiler:
The best way to do it is to order ALL available wings to first attack the nearest cruiser then the next one.  Leave the frigates as the Agamemnon and the cruiser will stay behind and try and take out the frigates.  While they are doing this order ALL fighters to attack the 1st far away cruiser and then th second.  While they attack i suggest you take out its beam weapons :)

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I tried that, but my dumbass wingmen keep getting shredded by brakiri fighters, even on the easiest difficulty setting

 

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Faith manages  ;7
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Offline General Battuta

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I did it!

madaboutgames, as you'll recall, I was a pretty harsh critic of the beta, but I really like the changes. I've managed positive results on every mission so far, and I love the sandbox feel of the battles. Feels like a real war. (Haven't yet lost a friendly capital ship!)

I'm not done yet -- just finished the convoy escort after the Battle of Altair. Looking forward to more!

 

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Well done MAG for taking onboard the comments the came out of the beta so enthusiastically. Everyone seems much happier with the final release. That was one of the best examples of a successful beta cycle I've seen.
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Faith manages  ;7

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Faith may manage, but dumbass AI wingman certainly don't. I managed to save the aggie with 1% hull armor, only to have the cutscenes tell me all the EA ships get blasted anyways. Now i'm trying to save altair. It seems possible at first, but then the god damned shadows show up and one-shot the station

 

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Faith manages  ;7

Spoiler:
Faith may manage, but dumbass AI wingman certainly don't. I managed to save the aggie with 1% hull armor, only to have the cutscenes tell me all the EA ships get blasted anyways. Now i'm trying to save altair. It seems possible at first, but then the god damned shadows show up and one-shot the station

Spoiler:
Then dont show off or scan any of the defence platforms :)
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: Earth Brakiri War feedback
Spoiler:
Is it possible to save Earth in any ending? What if I destroyed the whole Brakiri fleet in the final mission?

Also, was Sheldon supposed to die? She single-handedly fought the Brakiri for about an hour and survived the final mission.