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Offline Droid803

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In this particular instance, taking all the people who don't belong to that universe and sending 'em back to where they came from.

Basically a form of energy conservation.

Uhh...then wouldn't they throw the Sanctuary back to where they came from? :nervous:
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Offline General Battuta

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Maybe that was part of the 'deal', so to spoke, regarding Samuel Bei's destiny.

 

Offline Darius

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Uhh...then wouldn't they throw the Sanctuary back to where they came from? :nervous:

Yes they'll have to. And now we've got a plot hook! :)

 

Offline Snail

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Ah, so the Vishnans aren't the angels we all thought they were, huh?

Nice. :nod:

 

Offline General Battuta

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Jeez. I can't wait to see how Samuel reacts to that.

 

Offline Snail

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Jeez. I can't wait to see how Samuel reacts to that.
To be honest I thought Samuel was a jackass... :nervous:

(Corey was cool but Taylor was a bit thick)

 

Offline General Battuta

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Well, I liked him...he's clearly from a somewhat different, more formal culture, but I can tolerate that.

 

Offline Snail

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Well, I liked him...he's clearly from a somewhat different, more formal culture, but I can tolerate that.
I thought he was a dumbass when the transport blew up and he was like "DADDY! MUMMY AND MY GIRLFRIEND JUST GOT BLOWN UP HELP ME PL0X!"

 

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Offline General Battuta

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Well, I liked him...he's clearly from a somewhat different, more formal culture, but I can tolerate that.
I thought he was a dumbass when the transport blew up and he was like "DADDY! MUMMY AND MY GIRLFRIEND JUST GOT BLOWN UP HELP ME PL0X!"

Snail, Snail. That was the beginning of his character arc. He's obviously well past that stage by the time 'Journey's End' swings around.

He's supposed to start off as an unsympathetic, cold, haunted quasi-space-emo, but he does move past it.

 

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Another thing was the whole "This is why I was born I must do this you can't stop me i have to do this you are stupid you dont understand me i am samure ebfruef"

 

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Another thing was the whole "This is why I was born I must do this you can't stop me i have to do this you are stupid you dont understand me i am samure ebfruef"

Really? I didn't find it all that blatant. Very mildly cheesy, sure, but not really aggravating.

Boystrous 19 year old temp at work slapped me in the face with an envelope and laughed it off as playful. So I shoved him over a desk and laughed it off as playful. It's on camera so I can plead reasonable force.  Temp is now passive.

 

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No, it was a good plot point, but I didn't like Samuel Bei as a person/character. He's just not the kind of person you get to like. He's the kind of person you punch in the face. A cheating, deceiving sodding crybaby who thinks he's justified in being one just because he lost half his family due to his incompetence...

On second thoughts that's a pretty damn good reason...

 

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I would argue the point that during Samuel Bei's escort mission in Capella, he had only two wingmen with him and he was up against an overwhelming Shivan force that launched warheads at a transport whose armor could be charitably described as paper-thin and bluntly described as being slightly worse than stepping onto a battlefield naked.

Boystrous 19 year old temp at work slapped me in the face with an envelope and laughed it off as playful. So I shoved him over a desk and laughed it off as playful. It's on camera so I can plead reasonable force.  Temp is now passive.

 

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Ah, the diversity of perception!

 

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I guess I'm just comparing him to people I know in real life. Like some dip**** who thinks he can be emo now because he lost a hard drive or whatever. But evidently losing your family because of your own actions is probably a good enough reason to become an emo ass hole.

 

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But evidently losing your family because of your own actions is probably a good enough reason to become an emo ass hole.

Uh...no ****?
You can not hate yourself after that? O_o
You'd have to be pretty uncaring...or evil. That works too. Especially if you killed your family willingly.
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But evidently losing your family because of your own actions is probably a good enough reason to become an emo ass hole.

Uh...no ****?
You can not hate yourself after that? O_o
You'd have to be pretty uncaring...or evil. That works too. Especially if you killed your family willingly.

Samuel didn't kill his family willingly. How can three Perseus fighters hold off so many Shivans?
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How could the transport not jump out and just wait for the bombs to get to it? It could have jumped to somewhere safer. Somewhere with Alpha1.

 

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How could the transport not jump out and just wait for the bombs to get to it? It could have jumped to somewhere safer. Somewhere with Alpha1.
Well, in this case Alpha 1 was Samuel Bei. But Samuel Bei was a useless sod at the time.