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Offline Al Tarket

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i call CARL to american office as president :nervous:.

if nothing changes from bushes time in office then you know you votes worng, where if nothing changes on the other end, your voting for the wrong parties.
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Offline Mars

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The USA is not Rome 2.0... Rome controlled the world, and the US fails at controlling the world.

 

Offline Nuke

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yes but we have nukes :D
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Offline Janos

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lol wtf

 

Offline Snail

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That's brilliant.

 

Offline Al Tarket

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lol good god! nice to see that fox hasn't lost its style about being best source of accidental humor i have ever seen.
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Offline Nuke

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if ^ thats not reason enough to vote mccain then you all need to shoot yourselves
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Offline Dark RevenantX

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McCain would probably do it too.  Luckily, we don't have to worry about Biden unless Obama dies.

 

Offline Goober5000

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if ^ thats not reason enough to vote mccain then you all need to shoot yourselves
It might be better strategery to vote for Obama, though.  Because if Obama loses, it's Hillary in 2012. :shaking:  We really dodged a bullet this year.

 

Offline Hellstryker

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Honestly, I don't like hillary but wouldn't you rather have her than another bush clone?   :rolleyes:

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Honestly, I don't like hillary but wouldn't you rather have her than another bush clone?   :rolleyes:

No. I wouldn't.
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Offline Bob-san

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Honestly, I don't like hillary but wouldn't you rather have her than another bush clone?   :rolleyes:
I'd prefer another Bush clone than an inappropriate shift to socialism--and that's from a socialist. With Bush '04 and now McCain '08, at least we know what'll happen. I don't trust Obama with running a McDonalds--why should I trust him running the country? And for him... what credentials? A single term as Senator? A number of campaign managers? McCain is far from a perfect candidate... the guy's as old as dirt, but he does have actual credentials to run for this position. 1958 Annapolis graduate, US Rep for Arizona for 4 years, now US Senator for Arizona for the past 20 years. Versus Obama, who was in the Illinois senate for nearly 8 years followed by his first and only stint as Senator.

Sorry, I can throw a bit more trust and experience to McCain. Obama is too much of an unknown. But yes, either way, we're screwed and neither has the type of experience to become a good US President. Neither have that executive experience that we want.

That, and Hilary is a worse choice than Obama. Too bad he didn't pick her as running mate--then there's no way Obama could win! Both of them are so polarizing.
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Offline Dark RevenantX

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Obama will have experience by the end of the presidency if he's elected...  :nervous:

 

Offline Scuddie

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Guess what.  George W. Bush had experience.  And look how well that turned out.

It'd be nice to see an argument against Obama that isn't strictly about theory-based leadership.  Just one.

I can think of a couple dozen legitimate reasons why the idea of having McCain as President of the United States literally frightens me.
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Offline BloodEagle

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It'd be nice to see an argument against Obama that isn't strictly about theory-based leadership.  Just one.

His foreign policy is retarded. :nod:

 
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Offline WMCoolmon

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I'm skeptical of the whole experience angle. The president has a legion of people assisting him, and many of them are experienced. He also has access to experts on any given topic, whether because they're attracted to government service or because he can throw huge sums of money at them.

I see a very specific area of core expertise.
(1) You can't look like a doofus. Well, you have to at least get people to vote for you. You can't forget Poland.
(2) You have to be able to make connections with people very fast. (Duh?)
(3) You have to be able to understand when people are putting you on, understand when people are using you, and understand when people are lying to you.
(4) You have to know who to listen to when you don't have specific knowledge about that area.

I think it's very telling that one of the most well-remembered American presidents was also an actor. I don't think doing a good job with the presidency is as much about getting an "A" in political science or law school, or being the type to do it, as much as it is about understanding people and the systems they create.

EDIT: Or in other words, you need leadership skills. Past that specific law, strategy, technology, or regional information may be a bonus, but I don't think that any one area is as critical as knowing who to delegate it to who can make the right decisions. The President will always have more than he can handle or ever hope to give the attention it deserves.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2008, 11:32:25 pm by WMCoolmon »
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Offline Scuddie

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An intelligent post on these forums?!  The apocalypse is nigh!

BTW, my thoughts exactly.
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