[Flipside]

Exactly, to be honest, I was just showing how, with two posts, you can turn the entire position on abortion on it's head and still give justifiable reasons for it

I'm strongly in favour of contraceptives, purely because it means you can avoid abortion. I don't believe Abortion should be used as a contraceptive, not only is that silly, it's dangerous, and Abstention is exactly the same, silly and dangerous, because it doesn't work, and it won't ever work, wanting it to work won't change that, preaching fire and brimstone won't either, never has.

So yep, wrap it up and have fun, and if God exists, just remind Him that He designed Testosterone, Oestrogen and all those other goodies that make us behave that way, frankly, any God that dumps that lot on teenagers and then expects them to behave is a sadistic git, and I wouldn't want anything to do with Him anyway.

[karajorma]

Of course, if you want to be truly cold-bloodedly logical about it, you would argue that abortion should be banned because we're in a state of negative population growth...

I wasn't aware that we were on the run from the Cylons.

[NGTM-1R]

Of course, if you want to be truly cold-bloodedly logical about it, you would argue that abortion should be banned because we're in a state of negative population growth...

I wasn't aware that we were on the run from the Cylons.

Little did you know...

But seriously, most Western world countries are only in a state of population growth via immigration.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

But seriously, most Western world countries are only in a state of population growth via immigration.

It must be the falling birth rate. Such a price to pay for widespread education, eh?

[Flipside]

Actually, it's more fuelled more by the cost of raising those families.

[karajorma]

But seriously, most Western world countries are only in a state of population growth via immigration.

Fine with me.

[Flipside]

But seriously, most Western world countries are only in a state of population growth via immigration.

Fine with me.

Agreed, what we need to work on right now is not numbers, but distribution.

[karajorma]

Immigrants tend to have more children and die younger due to their poorer upbringing. Sounds like it sorts itself out.

[Colonol Dekker]

<lion king> And so the glorious circle of life continues. </lion king>

[Kazan]

Much as I like what Obama preaches, it's rather vague. McCain is much less so, but has probably blown his chance at the election.

no.. it's really not

but only the vague stuff makes good soundbites

[Kazan]

Obama.

If only because I have it on reasonably good authority Palin is an intelligent design proponent.

and thinks that women should have to pay for their rape kit, then carry the baby to term fathered by their rapist

[Kazan]

One word.  Hatemonger.  Vague, yes, but so very explanatory.

I'm not seeing much of an explanation, but to each their own, I guess.  Can I fire back with something like "flowery, substance-less prose," or something along those lines?

no.. because it would be an inaccurate statement

[Kazan]

Somebody brought up an interesting point to me today. While we blame Bush for the economy, and doubtless he deserves to shoulder a good amount of it, in a very real sense we are forgetting that for the last couple of Congressional elections, we have had a Democratic congress. And put bluntly, the Executive Branch is in the driver's seat, but Congress navigates. At best, Congress has probably been engaged in sabotaging any serious efforts to deal with the situation since the campaign started months ago so the Democrats could take the presidency; at worst, they have an equal or greater share of the blame.

those democratic congress (single, 2006->present) didn't make the changes to law, and don't have to executive powers to appoint inept do-nothings to enforcement positions, that bush's first 6 years of republican house and senate and his being president give the republicans

[Kazan]

(a bunch of posts)

I got news for you bro - Trickle Down Economics don't work

never have
never will

the entire idea is fallacious

[Flipside]

For some reason, whenever I read about Palin, I think of the literary explanation of the 'Scouring of the Shire' from LoTR.

Fighting the 'Big' enemy is all well and good, but at the end of the day, you have to go home, and you have to make sure that it is a home worth going to, sometimes you have to fight for that. The coalition went into Iraq to install (in their definition) freedom of Speech and Human Rights, particularly for women, whilst, at home, those very Rights are at risk of being slowly eroded. If McCain were Saruman, then Palin would be Wormtongue.

[Aardwolf]

If McCain were Saruman, then Palin would be Wormtongue.

Ahahaha! Funny, but sadly half the country seems to see it the other way around (that the Dems are the bad guys, etc.)

[Flipside]

I know, it's kind of odd, considering McCain/Palin is in favour of destroying natural habitats for the sake of industrialisation, which is precisely what Saruman/Wormtongue caused to happen in the Shire before the scouring

[NGTM-1R]

So, Kazan, is there some reason you are mentally inable to condense that all into one post?

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Quintuple-post. I did that once.

[redsniper]

He's too jaded and srs bsns to bother with post formatting.