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Offline Meleardil

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On Race, Racism and What's In A Name (Split from Diaspora)
I find it utterly ridiculous that every time someone "dares to mention" Jews or Israel, the topic must start with apology that he is "not racist or something". How come that such apology is not necessary when you mention any other religions or countries? And those who object against such "blasphemy" are mostly not even Jews or from Israel.
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I simply said it because I didn't want to be misenterpreted.

The word "Diaspora" reminds tragic aspects of Israeli history, I thought it was the case to clarify that mine was a pure reference with no racism.

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Yeah...you were perfectly clear, and lightyears from being offensive. :)
My note was addressed to the fact that you worried about being misinterpreted.

Diaspora is a Greek word, with the meaning of "spreading the seeds" (or swarming out). It is very general. Can be applied on either tragic or happy events, depending on the actual depression level of your nation.
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"Spora" stands for "seeds" :nod:

Yep, Diaspora is Greek...and in Italian it keeps the same pronunciation...that's why I perfectly know how to pronounce it ;)
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The name is used in a large number of sci-fi books to denote the departure of humanity from Earth after some kind of war.
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That's why it fits perfectly with BSG, right? :)
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I find it utterly ridiculous that every time someone "dares to mention" Jews or Israel, the topic must start with apology that he is "not racist or something". How come that such apology is not necessary when you mention any other religions or countries? And those who object against such "blasphemy" are mostly not even Jews or from Israel.

What I find ridiculous is that people seem to think "Jew" is a race. It's not. "Semite" is the name for a member of the closest thing to a 'Jewish race' -- "Jew" is a member of a religion. Likewise, Christian is not a race, nor is white a religion.

Anywho... I agree with the guy who's agreeing with me.

 

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What are you saying? Races don't even exist...claiming the existance of races automatically means declaring himself a racist...the only differences between populations of humans is the way they adapted to different environments...there are no races... :)
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Okay guys, we're getting a little off track here.
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Right...

But I guess you're going to see other similar discussions in the future due to the mod's name...maybe you should clarify everything in the Diaspora FAQ.
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What are you saying? Races don't even exist...claiming the existance of races automatically means declaring himself a racist...the only differences between populations of humans is the way they adapted to different environments...there are no races... :)
Yet in your sig you have lists of Italians and Americans.

 

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Those are countries. Countries are not races are not religions are not countries.

 

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Just for the record. Dia - spora has nothing to do whith seeds. "Spora" here stands for spreading.  :)
The word Spora do means seeding but whith the prefix "Dia" has a totally defrend meaning.
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I had no idea Italian and American were countries.

 

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I had no idea Italian and American were countries.

Don't play dumb with me. You know what I meant (or you should): that Italian and American were adjectives denoting a country of origin or descent.

 

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Oh, of course - no discrimination on 'race', but it's ok if it's based on them being from another country.

 

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No, actually they're all equally stupid.

 

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Oh, of course - no discrimination on 'race', but it's ok if it's based on them being from another country.

Then criticize colecampbell666's list of Canadians on his sig... :P

Just for the record. Dia - spora has nothing to do whith seeds. "Spora" here stands for spreading.  :)
The word Spora do means seeding but whith the prefix "Dia" has a totally defrend meaning.

I must have been confused by the fact that "spora" reminds "spore".
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Then criticize colecampbell666's list of Canadians on his sig... :P
He isn't the one calling it racist.

 

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Race(which doesn't exist) and nationality are two separate things. I "might" be nationalist but I'm not a racist.
Of course, one is arbitrarily separating people based on differences in appearance; the other is arbitrarily separating people based on where they happened to be born relative to arbitrary map drawing decisions.